06-07-2018, 09:29 PM | #31 |
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Re: Mood or Tone of the 'Dungeon Fantasy' setting, world...
Ah, I see. It didn't occur to me that video games were a major inspiration for Dungeon Fantasy, but it makes sense. I've always assumed the genre was primarily an homage to the early days of D&D.
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06-07-2018, 09:48 PM | #32 |
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06-08-2018, 08:02 AM | #33 |
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Re: Mood or Tone of the 'Dungeon Fantasy' setting, world...
There were many ludic influences on the genre treatment. The most important were Advanced Dungeons & Dragons, Tunnels & Trolls, Roguelikes (especially NetHack), and early CRPGS (particularly the Ultima and Diablo series).
There were a fair few cinematic influences. The least-terrible were probably Conan the Barbarian (1982) and Conan the Destroyer (1984). I also got a few ideas from Excalibur (1981), Ladyhawke (1985), and even The Princess Bride (1987). But there's also Red Sonja (1985) . . . and even the terribleness of the likes of Hawk the Slayer (1980), Krull (1983), The Sword and the Sorcerer (1982), and The Warrior and the Sorceress (1984). You could sum it up as "1980s fantasy with muscle-bound barbarians, generic Olden Times technology, and women in cheesecake armor, with a dash of idealized chivalry and a soupçon of swashbuckling." There were fewer literary influences because dungeon crawls aren't a strong literary trope. I'd be lying if I left out The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings, but beyond that I didn't much dip into novels. However, my view of "town" swipes a lot from the Thieves' World stories, and I know that wherever Peter Dell'Orto's hand is visible in Dungeon Fantasy, the Black Company isn't all that far away. Whether any of these things really speak to a setting (rather than a genre treatment) is a whole other matter. The setting is more akin to that of post-apocalyptic sci-fi movies, where only the brave heroes ever leave the relative security of the ratty, thug-infested settlements – usually so they can go out into the wastelands and search for "loot" (fuel, ammo, still-working tech, etc.), which inevitably means fighting mutants and zombies.
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06-08-2018, 09:38 AM | #34 | |
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06-09-2018, 08:00 AM | #35 |
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Welcome back!
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06-10-2018, 07:17 PM | #36 |
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Pretty much every DF Elf Scout I have seen might as well be Crow.
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06-11-2018, 06:11 AM | #37 |
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Thank you! I am still only kind-of, sort-of on the forums, because I have a lot of other stuff to get to, but I'm taking my coffee breaks here.
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07-07-2018, 03:14 PM | #39 |
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What about the F-something and the Grey Mouser series for literary influences? They were certainly big starters in the pulp fantasy genre.
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With this movie, I think it's better just ignore the reviews and watch it for yourself.
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