How to manage water torture?

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

Besides if it does include the +3 than when would you ever just get the +3 instead of the +6?

When you aren't torturing them, merely threatening. The bonus applies after the agony has been removed.

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by Anthony

When you aren't torturing them, merely threatening. The bonus applies after the agony has been removed.

Isn't causing pain and then threatening to cause more pain if you don't talk a kind of torture?

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

Isn't causing pain and then threatening to cause more pain if you don't talk a kind of torture?

Yes. What this really amounts to is badly constructed rules; the bonus for agony should just be listed in both places. Absent that, since causing agony is the normal way torture is done, I choose to assume that +6 does not mean +9.

[jason taylor]

Originally Posted by Ortega

wikipedia said:
The victim has to drink all the water (or other liquids such as bile or urine) poured into the funnel to avoid drowning. The stomach fills until near bursting and is sometimes beaten until the victim vomits and the torture begins again. [...]
Water torture was used extensively and legally by the courts of France from the Middle Ages to the 17th and 18th centuries. It was known as being put to "the question", with the ordinary question consisting of eight pints (3.6 litres) of water forced into the stomach, and the extraordinary question consisting of sixteen pints (7.3 litres).

I have no idea about how to translate this in gurps4e rules. Low tech is laconic about it:
...is to force him to swallow an excessive amount of water (inflicting agony) until intoxication causes death.

How much HP and FP consume for session or for pints, and how to calculate beating damage on a inflated belly? How long a session can take, half hour perhaps? It need Fright Checks between session? And what are rules for intoxication? How much time need a character in order to regain full functionality?

If can be useful, the adventure background is much alike to Brotherhood of the Wolf.

Do you have a PC that you have an unusual dislike toward?

[jason taylor]

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

... making you watch every episode of Ridiculousness or something...

What kind of sadist are you?

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Absent that, since causing agony is the normal way torture is done, I choose to assume that +6 does not mean +9.

What about the other levels of pain, or threats to loved ones?

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

What about the other levels of pain, or threats to loved ones?

What about them? A better interrogation roll indicates more sophisticated application of pain.

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by Anthony

What about them? A better interrogation roll indicates more sophisticated application of pain.

• Pain doesn't give a bonus.
• Agony gives a +3.

If both actually give a +6 then what's the point of Agony's bonus?

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

If both actually give a +6 then what's the point of Agony's bonus?

+3 to intimidate.

[Maz]

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

What about the other levels of pain, or threats to loved ones?

+3 if you use severe threats

The +6 for torture is probably a max. Some likely talk before you reach "agony" pain. but once you've started inflicting any sort of pain, the threat of MOAR PAIN sis there. So I think the +6 is assuming you are some point reach Agony-levels. If you for some weird reason is incapable or unwilling to inflict that level of pain (and do not have more creative ways, like exploiting phobias), then I think the +6 should be lower.