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Old 10-05-2009, 11:38 AM   #1
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Here's the challenge, in case anybody wants to play:
The basic goal is set at 12.
Devise a way to win with the 8 (or less) cards of your choice in play.
No attacks.
Your illuminati counts as the first of your 8 cards.
Using a goal card will count as one of your cards.

Can you do it? :D
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Old 10-06-2009, 12:44 PM   #2
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I don't think I quite understand the rules. Do you mean eight cards in your power structure and hand (in which case it's pretty easy) or just the illuminati in play and the rest in your hand?

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Old 10-06-2009, 01:56 PM   #3
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I meant 8 cards in play. Period. No attacks or other stuff.

So, for example: 1 illuminati, 5 groups, 1 linked plot, 1 NWO, 1 resource = 8 cards.

Perhaps it is easy :)
I know Bavarias goal is fairly easy to reach.

But let's hear suggestions for other goals. Or for fewer cards. How low can you go? :D
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Old 10-06-2009, 08:23 PM   #4
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So something like:

Shangri-La
Elvis
- Kinder and Gentler
- Nobel Peace Prize
- Messiah
Church of Elvis
Vatican City
End of the World

Elvis gives 6+4+2+2=14
Church of Elvis gives 8+2=10
Vatican City gives 4+2=6
for a total of 30 Peaceful.


A favorite win (which generally only works once against a specific player) is Adepts of Hermes + Arise! Cthulhu decks love blowing up my Adepts deck's groups. Doesn't fit your parameters, though.
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Old 10-07-2009, 01:09 AM   #5
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Yep - exactly like that.
That's Shangri-La in 8.
Can anybody do Shangri-La in 7?

Or can you do something else in 8.

I've got one for Bavaria in 8 - with no group having a printed power higher than 2! :D
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Old 10-07-2009, 02:57 AM   #6
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I meant 8 cards in play. Period. No attacks or other stuff.
Thanks for clarifying - I couldn't see how to do it the other way!

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Perhaps it is easy :)
I know Bavarias goal is fairly easy to reach.
OK, it was Bavaria I was thinking of. You just need 7 puppets of power 6 or more. Can we do it in less, though? Yes:

NWO: Gun Control
Bavaria (10)
- New York (11)
-- Mafia (8)
- Texas (9)
- C.I.A. (9)
- Clone Arrangers (8)

That's 7 cards - and it only needed 3 power from the last puppet. Anybody do it in 6? It's been a while, and I can't remember if the doubling of New York's power with Cyborg Soldiers would happen before or after the +4...

I'll have a go with a harder Illuminati when I've got more time.

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Old 10-07-2009, 04:10 AM   #7
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Hi Elv,
nice one - no tricks, just brute force.
Doubling (cyborgs) comes before additions, so 'borging NY won't work.

I can take the 4 groups one higher (48), by replacing the mafia with pentagun - but there is no way to get the last 2 points without playing another card.

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Old 10-07-2009, 04:17 AM   #8
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OK - I've got a cute one that fails the criteria by 1 card:

Bavaria (1) controls Lyndon laRouche (2) who controls Opec (3)
Lyndon has Assertiveness Training (4) and Cyborg Soldiers (5)
So does opec (6+7) and OPEC also has Nationalization (8)

See where this is going?

OPEC rolls for token, you play Murphys Law (9) - and you win.
(OPEC has printed power 10, which gets doubled, 20, Lyndon copies the printed power, 30, and also doubles it, 40, and then there is Bavaria - 50.

I can also reveal that as part of a Deck of the Week contest I saw some details of the never released final expansion for INWO, and there was a card in there that would cut 1 card from this one :D
Oh well, sigh ;)

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That's 7 cards - and it only needed 3 power from the last puppet. Anybody do it in 6? It's been a while, and I can't remember if the doubling of New York's power with Cyborg Soldiers would happen before or after the +4...
The order is set, then multiply/divide, then add/subtract. (It'd been so long I had to dig out the rules. :)
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Old 10-07-2009, 12:15 PM   #10
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The order is set, then multiply/divide, then add/subtract. (It'd been so long I had to dig out the rules. :)
That's what I thought, but it's been so long for me too!

I actually went and dug out my assassins and subgenius cards. Here's a couple more brute force ones:

Gnomes of Zurich (7 cards)
- CFL-AIO
- Multinational Oil Companies
- Nuclear Power Companies
-- Phone Company
- Wall Street
-- Tobacco Companies

(you can do the same with 8 cards for any Illuminati if you add in Coroprate Masters)

Oops, you can't reach the Blinded by Science goal anymore since they errata'd it to need power 30. You'd need a 9th card.

Bermuda Triangle 8 (7 cards)
- New York 7 vio, cri, gov
- Moral Minority 2 con, str, fan
- CFL-AIO 6 lib, cor
- Japan 6 pea, gov
- California 5 wei, lib, gov
+ Cyborg Soldiers, Bigger Business, Gun Control, Political Correctness, or probably a bunch of others for the last 3 power.

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