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How it turns out will depend on the TL. In Ancient Athens, government property was very slim. There was not a whole bevy of assets that needed extra magistrates to control. The Laurium mines were an exception. In a more modern state, the state would at least have to have a corporate structure whoever held the proxy.
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08-01-2018, 07:57 AM | #452 | |
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A more practical limited implementation does exist in the party list election - where you only assign the proxies of people who bother to turn out to vote and only allow them to change at occasional intervals. The step where the party leaders reassign the proxies to individual members is a traditional but unnecessary flourish.
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08-01-2018, 10:00 AM | #453 |
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Social network aristocracy. The legislature is made up of the people who have the most social network "likes" and willing to accept the job.
Social network sanctioning. There are no codified punishments for crime, but if you accumulate too many dislikes people stop associating with you, and after a certain point people can gain likes for exacting vigilante justice on you. |
08-01-2018, 10:12 AM | #454 | |
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08-01-2018, 10:46 AM | #455 |
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Couldn't you do it just by handing out tokens or certificates of proxy? Have a voter registration day a few months before each election, where citizens collect their single tokens, then they pass them on to whoever they trust.
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08-01-2018, 11:35 AM | #456 |
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Wasn't that one on an episode of The Orville last year?
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08-01-2018, 04:27 PM | #457 |
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Yup, it was.
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08-01-2018, 07:36 PM | #458 |
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Re: Exotic Governmental/Legal Systems
That's not really any different than a straight up election - which indeed originally often were done with tokens. The feature that makes a more complex proxy system much more than a trivial variation on an electoral one is dynamically reassigning the proxies. And that's the information processing heavy part - unless all members of your society have enough magical ability to summon their tokens back or something, they don't help with that, and even if they do you still need to recount all the tokens every vote in the legislature to determine the instantaneously correct weights.
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08-02-2018, 09:30 AM | #459 | |
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lobbyist, etc. One problem not brought up is that officially everyone would have to have access to the assembly chamber while it is in session as legislators have no theoretical authority. That would make security difficult.
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08-02-2018, 09:45 AM | #460 |
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Re: Exotic Governmental/Legal Systems
One version which is kind of like this is that each legislator retains the votes cast for him all through his term and proxies them at will. The effect would be a weighted legislature.
A more mundane version is that this system is used only during referendums and special elections. Still another would be appropriate for a community with an adventuring tradition. Someone who has to go trading, fighting, or animal driving can leave his vote behind with a friend or family member or hired manager whatever orders for how it is to be wielded.
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