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09-24-2017, 12:14 PM | #12 |
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Re: foci in MtA
I think I'm going to have to pass up the Sigil of Dantalion as a focus. It seems like we're looking (a) at goetia and (b) at calling on demons, or what I've seen called ritual magic (in a non-gaming sense) as opposed to natural magic. On both counts it seems more like what the Nephandi would use in a standard mage campaign, or what corrupted mages would do, or what really dumb mages would do (really, dealing with the devil is like giving your personal information to a Nigerian bank fraud). The source material for the OoH doesn't make them out to be ALL demonolators; they may be stuffy and arrogant but many of them actually have good intentions.
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For Mind, it occurs to me that a couple of suitable models might be, on one hand, oneiromancy, and on the other, physiognomy. There are also the canons of representing the human body in painting and sculpture.
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09-24-2017, 01:18 PM | #15 |
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Also, the idea that demons have things to teach true mages, who understand how to use their will to change reality ... isn't something the MtA Order of Hermes are likely to be keen on.
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09-24-2017, 01:24 PM | #16 |
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It is just as possible that the spirits of goetia are internal to the mage. There's the thing in Thelema about hell and heaven being both inside the practicioner.
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09-24-2017, 02:57 PM | #17 |
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The Hermetic I played based Loosely on Crowley used expression as his Focus for mind. So am I say a little bit of poetry or give you a line something to distract you to crack your defenses and let him slip in through them
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09-24-2017, 03:25 PM | #18 |
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Well, that would definitely be easy for me to roleplay, as I know a lot of English verse by heart (and bits of French, German, and Greek)—almost certainly more than any of my players knows. Though since I'm envisioning this character as quantitatively oriented it might be more fitting symbolically for him to use music than language as his expressive medium. It could be either a focus for his own concentration or a way of entraining the listener's brain.
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09-24-2017, 04:22 PM | #19 |
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I don't know whether it would work for the specific character, but 1905 is about right for Freud starting to be taken seriously – still mostly in Vienna, but someone who took a particular interest in the field might have heard of him. That's the modern scientific theory of mind of that era.
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