09-26-2012, 10:54 PM | #31 | |
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09-26-2012, 10:57 PM | #32 |
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09-26-2012, 11:29 PM | #33 | |
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If you want to direct suppressive fire to the location of those rocks, no, not at all. You might not even get to roll the dice at all. You only roll for suppressive fire to see whether it hits a person (or other object of interest) passing within the beaten zone.
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09-26-2012, 11:34 PM | #34 | |
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I require a roll to hit the area, with the appropriate bonus (minimum +4), before I assess the effects. A miss uses the scatter rules, which could lead to a beaten zone located slightly (or vastly) off target.
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09-26-2012, 11:53 PM | #35 | |
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I think that GURPS, focused as it is on "exceptional" individuals, does a relatively poor job of capturing the ordinary. Realistically, suppressing fire is so effective that it is mostly limited by the need to conserve ammunition - absent that (or special tactical circumstances), why not hose down an area constantly? Suppressing fire essentially transforms every peek around cover into a slightly less dangerous version of charging a machinegun nest! To capture this, I would give some level of Cowardice and/or Fearfulness for nearly all civilians and most ordinary soldiers. |
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09-26-2012, 11:58 PM | #36 | |
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It's a bit odd, in that the SM of a hex ought to be +2 and not +4, but them's the rules. Maybe it would be more realistic to use an SM-based bonus, though, but then it's just not that much easier to lay a beaten zone over an area than it is to hit an individual target within it.
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09-27-2012, 12:01 AM | #37 | |
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09-27-2012, 12:23 AM | #38 | |
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The Tactical Shooting rules, meanwhile, refer to 'anyone under fire', for the 'stay down' effect under Fire and Maneuver, and 'coming under suppression fire' for Cool Under Fire. Anyone in the suppression zone is under suppression fire, even if it's outright impossible for any bullets to actually hit them due to low effective skill. The important effect, to be clear, is not hitting anybody with bullets. With suppressive fire, that was never at all likely anyway. The important effect is making the target make a fright check, plus a will roll if they want to poke their head out.
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09-27-2012, 10:22 AM | #40 |
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Ruleswise, that gets a little hairy...regular attacks presumably count as being under fire for the will roll rule, but if you don't use Suppression Fire or explosives and don't either hit or miss by 2 or less, it doesn't trigger a Fright Check from Cool Under Fire.
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