Ethereals & Disturbance

rknop · 08-28-2009, 08:11 PM

OK, I should just know this, but I don't.

Ethereals cause Disturbance, don't they?

I can think up arguments either way. ("Ethereals disturb like humans" -- only when spending Essence consciously, using Songs, or "Ethereals disturb like Celestials" -- including mudane whacking on things.)

P. 54 of In Nomine talks all about Celestials disturbing, does not (unless I missed it) mention Ethereals.

Acolyte · 08-28-2009, 08:59 PM

Ethereals cause disturbance in the manner of celestials--obviously when using Songs and Essence-powered rolls and attunements, but also when merely destroying things. Only humans can significantly alter the corporeal realm without the Symphony pegging the intervention as unnatural.

I suppose it would make sense to say that celestials cause disturbance when destroying things in the Marches while ethereals don't, but hearing disturbance is more iffy in the Marches anyway.

Rocket Man · 08-28-2009, 09:36 PM

One addition: Combat in the Marches doesn't cause Disturbance because it's "not real." I would assume that "destruction" in the Marches would follow the same rules.

Destroying Forces in the Marches does cause noise-- when it's ethereal/celestial vs. human or celestial vs. ethereal. But if an ethereal hurts a celestial or another ethereal, it's perfectly silent .... presumably because the ethereals and humans belong there, but the celestials don't. Messing with a human's dreamscape makes a little noise, too.

And yes, on Earth, ethereals make Disturbance just as celestials do.

(All of the above paraphrased from the Ethereal Player's Guide, which has far more detailed rules on ethereals in general.)

08-28-2009, 08:11 PM	#1
rknop Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New Castle, PA (north of Pittsburgh)	Ethereals & Disturbance OK, I should just know this, but I don't. Ethereals cause Disturbance, don't they? I can think up arguments either way. ("Ethereals disturb like humans" -- only when spending Essence consciously, using Songs, or "Ethereals disturb like Celestials" -- including mudane whacking on things.) P. 54 of In Nomine talks all about Celestials disturbing, does not (unless I missed it) mention Ethereals.

08-28-2009, 08:59 PM	#2
Acolyte Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Seattle	Re: Ethereals & Disturbance Ethereals cause disturbance in the manner of celestials--obviously when using Songs and Essence-powered rolls and attunements, but also when merely destroying things. Only humans can significantly alter the corporeal realm without the Symphony pegging the intervention as unnatural. I suppose it would make sense to say that celestials cause disturbance when destroying things in the Marches while ethereals don't, but hearing disturbance is more iffy in the Marches anyway. __________________ “The world is going to Hell in a hand-basket, but I’ve got Good News: I saved my soul by switching to Heaven.” —Baruel, former Djinn of the Media, now Cherub of Destiny and the Angel of Good News

08-28-2009, 09:36 PM	#3
Rocket Man Petitioner: Word of IN Filk Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Longmont, CO	Re: Ethereals & Disturbance One addition: Combat in the Marches doesn't cause Disturbance because it's "not real." I would assume that "destruction" in the Marches would follow the same rules. Destroying Forces in the Marches does cause noise-- when it's ethereal/celestial vs. human or celestial vs. ethereal. But if an ethereal hurts a celestial or another ethereal, it's perfectly silent .... presumably because the ethereals and humans belong there, but the celestials don't. Messing with a human's dreamscape makes a little noise, too. And yes, on Earth, ethereals make Disturbance just as celestials do. (All of the above paraphrased from the Ethereal Player's Guide, which has far more detailed rules on ethereals in general.) __________________ “It's not railroading if you offer the PCs tickets and they stampede to the box office, waving their money. Metaphorically speaking” --Elizabeth McCoy, In Nomine Line Editor Author: "What Doesn't Kill Me Makes Me Stronger"