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02-26-2018, 09:42 AM | #1 |
Join Date: May 2015
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Using ODE and Minis in the same scenario
Tried this weekend to incorporate the GITD minis besides others with ODE in a scenario. It really never dawned on me that the stacking allowed in a GEV scenario is impossible using minis in combination with ODE units.
After using them for the first time it seems like the way for me anyhow is to using the ODE boards, ignoring the hex field and must treat the overall area like a mini table to. To that end, has anyone thought of creating an all one color mapboard and then using the map mod pieces to create the field of battle abet in a much smaller scale thatn 1.5km to the hex? BTW poster putty works great for keeping the mods in place and it comes off easily for reuse. |
02-26-2018, 11:20 AM | #2 | |
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Lancaster, PA
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Re: Using ODE and Minis in the same scenario
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I imagine you'd need to track down multiple copies of a source of overlays to have enough, since the assumption with them is probably "modify a map" rather than "create one from scratch", but from the little research I've done it's a lot more economically feasible than the alternatives I've been looking at. Viking Mats is in preorder, so prices are going to go up at some point...but right now you can get a 32" by 32" [good for about a green map's worth of space, which are 28.5" x 33"] for $60 + shipping. They also make 27x46 ($52), 25.5x59 ($67), and 39x75 ($117). Custom sizes are a bit more expensive, but go up to 80x50. Battlefields I'm expecting to be in the $35 range; even if it's $40, at 32x32" that's a giant neoprene mat, three geomorphing maps, and three overlay sets for less than $200. It's an option I'll have to consider. So far I've been looking at going the other way, upscaling hexes instead of converting to freeform movement...with doing the MIB thing, it's important to me to avoid the problems with nudgers and 'come on, you're going to fight me over 1/64"?'. If people are arguing over fractions of a fraction of an inch, they're not enjoying the game, and if they're not enjoying the game they're not leaving with an interest in buying their own copy. So far I haven't found a pre-cut hex solution I like...$300-ish per green map for Picoarmor cardboard, up to $1200-ish per green map for Litko plywood, so am now doing the research into cutting them myself or getting a 3D printer. The latter's a long-term answer [huge startup costs, just like the airbrush I was looking into], but could work nicely in the long run.
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02-26-2018, 12:35 PM | #3 |
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Memphis, TN
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Re: Using ODE and Minis in the same scenario
A solution we use for stacking is d4. Someone here on the forums suggested it, and it works great. If you you homongenous units. Just leave one mini in the hex and use the d4 for the additional units in the hex. It breaks down if you have more than two types of units, but I can live with that.
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02-26-2018, 02:38 PM | #4 | |
Join Date: May 2015
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Re: Using ODE and Minis in the same scenario
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02-26-2018, 03:54 PM | #5 |
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Lancaster, PA
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Re: Using ODE and Minis in the same scenario
That's a lot of Ogre! Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're covered for overlays.
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02-26-2018, 04:04 PM | #6 |
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Lancaster, PA
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Re: Using ODE and Minis in the same scenario
I went back and re-read the Daily Illuminator that teased Battlefields. I very well might be off by about a dozen hexes' worth of distance, unless Drew is really going to spoil us with everything he teased plus terrain overlays...
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02-26-2018, 02:12 PM | #7 |
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: South Lyon, MI
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Re: Using ODE and Minis in the same scenario
You came up with a great idea on how to handle this back on 11/8/17 in the thread I started about assembling/stacking the soon to arrive minis.
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02-28-2018, 07:25 AM | #8 |
Join Date: May 2015
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Re: Using ODE and Minis in the same scenario
The problem I found is that it works only with stacks of similar units. GEV PC with mounted INF plus a Hvy and and Shvy and there's the issue.
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02-28-2018, 07:32 AM | #9 |
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Plainfield, IL
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Re: Using ODE and Minis in the same scenario
The method I learned from Ashley last year was to have units that are stacked to be touching side-by-side in the hex like a wedge/diamond. There's some bleed over into adjoining hexes, but it was rare for it to be confusing.
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02-28-2018, 07:41 AM | #10 |
Join Date: May 2015
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Re: Using ODE and Minis in the same scenario
You might want to check my post on a the Ogre FB page to explain my dilemma.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...&theater&ifg=1 |
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