09-24-2020, 06:58 AM | #11 |
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Re: [Spaceships] Area of a cabin
I live in an actual cabin that is about 4.6m x 4.6m, about 21m^2. It contains kitchen, bathroom, shower, bed, desk and shelves for my stuff. I consider this to be comfortable for 1 person, very cramped for 2 people, you better really like them.
Growing up, I lived in a 880 sqft (81 m^2) house intended for a family of 4, which was fairly standard for a long time. So 20 m^2 per inhabitant sounds plenty comfortable.
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09-24-2020, 07:56 AM | #12 | |
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Consider something like the ship in Firefly. The cabins were more like maybe 9m^2? but there was a common kitchen dining area and "fold out toilets". In the army I lived with another person in a little smaller than a 25m^2 room, with a short hallway lined with built in lockers and a bathroom/shower. We had a hotplate and a fridge/freezer (small normal one, not the minibar hotel kind), couch, chair, "entertainment center" with a TV Stereo, and a desk and 2 twin "loft beds". It was a little tight for two, but luxury for one or for a couple that's sharing a sleep space. |
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09-25-2020, 02:05 PM | #13 | |
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09-25-2020, 02:23 PM | #14 |
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Re: [Spaceships] Area of a cabin
It's an option, but probably not a good option unless for some reason you're very volume constrained (which is the case for submarines, but usually not for spacecraft).
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09-25-2020, 03:00 PM | #15 |
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Re: [Spaceships] Area of a cabin
In the context of GURPS Spaceships specifically, it gets complicated because part of the volume of a "cabin" is a slice of life-support machinery.
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09-25-2020, 04:42 PM | #16 |
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Re: [Spaceships] Area of a cabin
More importantly, part of the mass of a cabin is a life support slice. The mass/volume distinction is also why hotbunking is marginal -- the actual mass of adding volume is not that high (mostly determined by radiation shielding mass).
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09-25-2020, 05:17 PM | #17 |
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Re: [Spaceships] Area of a cabin
Cabins have very little inherent radiation protection by RAW. Another reason to have armor is to have a hull that provides some radiation protection after the fuel tanks are empty.
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09-25-2020, 05:30 PM | #18 |
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Re: [Spaceships] Area of a cabin
Yes, but mass of radiation shielding is one of the few situations in which the actual size (as opposed to mass) of a spaceship matters (the other being armor).
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09-25-2020, 08:21 PM | #19 |
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Re: [Spaceships] Area of a cabin
By the way, when all Habitats in a system of SM+8 are setted as a Bunkroom, then 24 people use this system together, and area of a system of SM+8 is 200m^2 when thinking about Open Space.
Even that is not comfortable since Bunkrooms are comfortless by its definition, so I think (again) assuming 100 people congregate in an Open Space Area RAW is ridiculous. While there is cramped only by people when even there is no facility, then which facility can be installed in the cramped-by-only-people area? Last edited by Pectus Solentis; 09-25-2020 at 08:34 PM. |
09-25-2020, 08:40 PM | #20 | |
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