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Old 12-01-2017, 08:11 PM   #1
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Since "line editor Drew Metzger has been kicking around ideas for a new set, with info from backers" (per the 1 DEC 2017 Daily Illuminator), and our ideas are scattered hither and yon between three Kickstarter campaigns and multiple threads on this forum (and others), I thought it'd be a good idea if we took all our wish lists and got them in one place. I do mean "wish," too: post what you want to see, within what you think is reasonable. The guys at SJ Games are experienced enough to know what is and isn't possible, and will certainly try to do the best they can by us.

So here's what I want to see:

Set 3: Combine "Basic" Units
Red Plastic:
42x INF in 3 different poses with 14 bases
8x GEVs
8x Heavy Tanks
6x Missile Tanks
4x Howitzers
1x Command Post
1x Ogre Mk III-B
Blue Plastic:
2x Ogre Mk I/Pikeman (or more; 5x are the same cost as a Mk III-B)

Set 4: Combine "Advanced" Units
Red Plastic:
12x Light GEVs
12x Light Tanks
6x GEV-PCs with 18x INF
6x Superheavy Tanks
4x Mobile Howitzers
1x Ogre Mk VI
Blue Plastic:
1x Doppelsoldner

Set 5: "Uncommon Issue"
Red Plastic: (All Combine sculpts)
2x Missile Crawlers with removable missiles and 2x extra "flying" missiles
4x Hovertrucks and 6x Trucks (all on one sprue)
6x INF with 6x Heavy Weapons and 6x "2-squad" bases (or more)
1x Ogre Ninja with 2x modified LGEV drones
2x Ogre Mk II
1x Mobile Command Post + 4x Light Artillery Drones
Blue Plastic: (All Paneuro sculpts)
2x Missile Crawlers with removable missiles and 2x extra "flying" missiles
4x Hovertrucks and 6x Trucks (all on one sprue)
6x INF with 6x Heavy Weapons and 6x "2-squad" bases (or more)
1x Mobile Command Post + 4x Light Artillery Drones

Set 6: "Targets Go Boom"
Red Plastic:
2x Laser Turret + 1x Laser Tower
1x Ogre Vulcan with 2x modified Heavy Tank drones
Blue Plastic:
2x Laser Turret + 1x Laser Tower
1x Mobile Command Post-GEV
Gray Plastic: (since they're generic)
2x Trains + 1x Reactor
4x Admin Buildings + 1x Jam Screen
4x Strongpoints + 1x Radar Station
18x Militia with 6x bases + 6x Obsolete Armor

Set 7: "And Here's Where Bosch Loses His Damn Mind"
Any Color Plastic, I'm Not Picky:
8x Missile GEV
8x Heavy GEV
1x Ogre Mk VII
1x Nihon Oni ("Steel Demon")
1x Nihon Samurai ("Steel Warrior")
1x Israeli Golem
2x Chinese Dragon "cybertanks"

Set 8: "Ia! Ia Nyarlathotep! IA CTHULHU! Cthulhu ftahgn!"
Color Out Of Space Plastic:
42x Spawn INF with 14x bases
8x GEVs of Tindalos
8x Heavy Tankkoths
6x Missile Polyps
4x Horritzers
1x Blasphemous Commands Post
1x Azatogre Mk III
1x Ogrethulhu Mk V
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Old 12-01-2017, 08:23 PM   #2
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I think set #3 is a very reasonable selection, just replicate Set #1, but in the NAC sculpts.

For Set #4, I'd drop out the Mk. VI and the Doppelsoldner, and add in the Mk. II. For my money, the VI and Dopp are just too seldom used. Plus, they're a lot of plastic to be adding in to set #4.

I like all of Set #5 except the Ninja (I can proxy that with any other Ogre), but it may be a dream to get those units.

Set #6 would also be nice (leave out the Vulcan, those arms look anime silly), but it's even less likely than #5.

Set #7 is perhaps just a pipe dream, and I would have zero interest in Set #8 or anything fantasy related.
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Old 12-01-2017, 08:29 PM   #3
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I forgot Light Artillery Drones. Stick 'em in there somewhere, perhaps Set 5 or 6.

Edit: AND I forgot the units from Ogre Miniatures. I stuck 'em in there.
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Old 12-01-2017, 08:32 PM   #4
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I'd like to see the Mark I and Mark II come out in the same set; maybe with the III-B.
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Old 12-01-2017, 09:04 PM   #5
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Personally I'd rather see new unit types before "other side" sculpts of units from sets 1 and 2.
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Old 12-01-2017, 09:15 PM   #6
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For Set #4, I'd drop out the Mk. VI and the Doppelsoldner, and add in the Mk. II. For my money, the VI and Dopp are just too seldom used. Plus, they're a lot of plastic to be adding in to set #4.
Looking at the ODE cardboard pieces and pics of the minis online, the Mk VI and Dopp aren't really that much bigger than the Mk V and Fencer. Indeed, the tower on the VI is shorter than the V. The Dopp is just a bit bulkier than the Fencer and has the secondary batteries, but doesn't need the second turret cluttering up its sprue.

My thoughts with breaking down the Ogres as I did is that it gives players all of the mainline cybertanks by Set 4, Set 5 has the real rarities, Set 6 has the really-just-an-objective Vulcan, and Set 7 has the cybertanks that have been mentioned but never visualized.

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I like all of Set #5 except the Ninja (I can proxy that with any other Ogre), but it may be a dream to get those units.
The Ninja has both a metal miniature and a cardboard version. Why proxy it?

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Set #6 would also be nice (leave out the Vulcan, those arms look anime silly), but it's even less likely than #5.
This is a wish list, and all of those things exist in-universe and have rules. As I said in my opening post, I'll let SJ Games figure out how much they can give me, I'm just letting them know what I'd want.

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Set #7 is perhaps just a pipe dream, and I would have zero interest in Set #8 or anything fantasy related.
Sets 7 and 8 would certainly be low-interest, so I kept them fairly limited in scope. I could even see an Ogrethulhu set being half the size initially, sort of like the original plan for Set 1, and letting lunatics like me decide just how much we really want out of it.

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I'd like to see the Mark I and Mark II come out in the same set; maybe with the III-B.
Maybe 3x Mk I and 1x Mk II? That would match the 20 AU of the III-B. But I stuck the Mk II in with Set 5 because it's relatively uncommon in-universe. You'd be more likely to see an Ogre Ninja in most of the major theaters than the Mk II.
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Old 12-01-2017, 09:49 PM   #7
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I'd like to see the Mark I and II in force. They are _very_ rare sculpts; I've seen them in person only once and the Mark I especially is only good in large numbers. The III-B is a great upgrade from the III.

Oddly enough, it's amazing how many GEV-PCs I have, and I rarely use them; certainly never more than a handful, and only when dictated by the scenario.

Other than that, I'd like to see the "advanced" Combine units before the basic ones (mostly just because I don't have a lot of them, and my funding is going to get pulled eventually).
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Old 12-01-2017, 10:21 PM   #8
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@ColBosch:
I agree completely with your list on Sets 3 and 4 EXCEPT that I would like to see MK IIs added to Set 4 (NOT replacing either of the big cybertanks.)

I'm gonna think about other sets beyond that and then post. Honestly, unless both Set 3 (which is surely forthcoming) and Set 4 get close to the success that Set 2 enjoyed, I highly doubt we'd see any Sets 5 and higher.

OTOH, if Sets 3 and 4 DO reach high amounts, then that might prompt SJG to go for other sets with rarer and/or esoteric units.

I think we will see good numbers for Sets 3 and 4, which will probably be followed by far more intense soliciting of opinions from SJG. (Surrrrrrveeeyyyy!)
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Old 12-01-2017, 10:58 PM   #9
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My version of the list:

"Required" Set 3: Combine "Basic" Units
Red Plastic:
42x INF in 3 different poses with 14 bases
8x GEV
8x HVY
6x MSL
4x HOW
1x CP
1x Ogre Mk I
1x Ogre Mk II
1x Ogre Mk III-B
Blue Plastic:
1x Ogre Mk I

"Required" Set 4: Combine "Advanced" Units
Red Plastic:
12x LGEV
12x LT
6x GEV-PC with 18x INF
6x SHVY
4x MHWZ
1x Ogre Mk VI
Blue Plastic:
1x Doppelsoldner

Potential Set 5:
Red Plastic: (NAC sculpts)
1x Missile Crawler / removable missile and 1x "flying" stand
4x Hovertrucks
6x Trucks
6x INF with 3x Heavy Weapons and 3x "2-squad" bases
1x Ogre Ninja with 1x LGEV drone
2x Ogre Mk II (re-use sprue from Set #3)
1x Mobile CP
Blue Plastic: (PE sculpts)
1x Missile Crawler / removable missile and 1x "flying" stand
4x Hovertrucks
6x Trucks
6x INF with 3x Heavy Weapons and 3x "2-squad" bases
1x Mobile CP

Dreamed of Set 6:
Red Plastic:
2x Laser Turret + 1x Laser Tower
1x Ogre Vulcan
2x HVY drones
Blue Plastic:
2x Laser Turret + 1x Laser Tower
1x GEV-CP
Gray Plastic:
1x Train

Additional thoughts: For everything else, like archaic armor, militia, etc., there is GHQ, C-in-C, Brigade Models, X-Marx and a number of other makers.

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Old 12-02-2017, 10:44 AM   #10
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I know a lot of people disagree, but I would much rather see new units than NAC sculpts of existing units. I have 2 sets of each color, meaning I can field a large battle of Red vs. Blue and the fact that its the same sculpts won't be a hardship to distinguish between the NAC and PE forces. WIll I buy a set 3 with NAC sculpts of existing units? Sure, I'm interested in them even if I don't need them :) But having unit's that I don't have either PE or NAC sculpts of would be even better in my book, since I can just buy multiple colors and use them as needed...
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