What is a turn???????

[zoncxs]

soooo

Turn a: red attacks reach 1 weapon (blue slips in for defense)
Turn a: blue waits

Turn b: red steps and attacks, blue wait triggers and steps with and attacks also. red defends by acrobatic retreating and blue by slipping in.
Turn b: blue attacks.

can Red do another acrobatic Retreat?

to my knowledge, no. since red did so on his turn and it has yet to go back to being his turn. though the bonus from retreating still counts, the acrobatic part and moving away part does not.

am I wrong?

[David Johnston2]

Originally Posted by zoncxs

soooo

Turn a: red attacks reach 1 weapon (blue slips in for defense)
Turn a: blue waits

Turn b: red steps and attacks, blue wait triggers and steps with and attacks also. red defends by acrobatic retreating and blue by slipping in.
Turn b: blue attacks.

can Red do another acrobatic Retreat?
?

Red doesn't have to. Red is doing acrobatics until _Red's_ next turn. Events happen simultaneously. Your turn does not end when another character takes their turn.

[zoncxs]

Originally Posted by David Johnston2

Red doesn't have to. Red is doing acrobatics until _Red's_ next turn. Events happen simultaneously. Your turn does not end when another character takes their turn.

acrobatic dodge states you can only use it once for a defense and once for you turn

Retreating dodge states you can only do so once per turn.

with that, red cannot move again right?

[David Johnston2]

Originally Posted by zoncxs

acrobatic dodge states you can only use it once for a defense and once for you turn

Retreating dodge states you can only do so once per turn.

with that, red cannot move again right?

Right. While you are doing acrobatics for the whole turn the dodge bonus is only for one dodge roll,and you only get to move once.

[Phantasm]

Look at it this way:

Start:
Red Attacks with Reach 1 weapon.

Halfway into the attack, Blue, who was Doing Nothing as Red Attacks, declares a Wait, to be triggered by Red's *next* Attack.

Red Attacks again, triggering Blue's Wait. Red performs an Acrobatic Dodge to avoid Blue's Attack.

Halfway through the Acrobatic Dodge, Blue Attacks again. Red is still performing his Acrobatic Dodge, so the bonus from this still applies.

Now it's Red's turn to do something.

End of situation.

[zoncxs]

Acrobatic Dodge
If you have put at least one point
into the Acrobatics skill, you can try a
“fancy” dodge once during your turn.
... On a success, you
get +2 to that Dodge roll. On a failure,
you get -2.
You can combine this option with a
retreat (see Retreat, p. 377).

according to that, the bonus for acrobatic dodge applies to only 1 defense against 1 attack.

the retreat applies to all attacks made by the same foe.

so for the first attack red got +5 to dodge.

on the second it was +3 from it still being the same turn. and he cannot move a further yard.

[Ze'Manel Cunha]

Blue's first attack occurs before Red's second attack, Blue's second attack occurs after Red's second attack.

Red gets to acrobatically dodge both of Blue's attacks which occur on two different turns.

[ericbsmith]

Originally Posted by Ze'Manel Cunha

Blue's first attack occurs before Red's second attack, Blue's second attack occurs after Red's second attack.

Red gets to acrobatically dodge both of Blue's attacks which occur on two different turns.

Disagree. Red starts his Second turn and Steps. At that point Blue interrupts with his Wait and Attacks, Red continues his Second Turn, then Blue takes his 2nd Turn. The entirety of events happens during Red's Second Turn, he gets only one Acrobatic Dodge and one Retreat during a single one of his turns (though, as others noted, a Retreat applies to all defenses made against the same foe, so would apply to both of Blue's attacks).

[Captain Joy]

Originally Posted by zoncxs

soooo

Turn a: red attacks reach 1 weapon (blue slips in for defense)
Turn a: blue waits

Turn b: red steps and attacks, blue wait triggers and steps with and attacks also. red defends by acrobatic retreating and blue by slipping in.
Turn b: blue attacks.

can Red do another acrobatic Retreat?

to my knowledge, no. since red did so on his turn and it has yet to go back to being his turn. though the bonus from retreating still counts, the acrobatic part and moving away part does not.

am I wrong?

Better to think of it this way:

• Red Turn A: Red attacks reach 1 weapon (blue slips in for defense)
• Blue Turn A: Blue waits
• Red Turn B: Red steps and attacks, triggering Blue's wait
  • Blue steps and attacks (Red acrobatic dodges)
  • Red steps and attacks (Blue slips in for defense)
• Blue Turn B: Blue attacks (Red can not acrobatic dodge again until Red Turn C)

[zoncxs]

Originally Posted by Captain Joy

Better to think of it this way:

• Red Turn A: Red attacks reach 1 weapon (blue slips in for defense)
• Blue Turn A: Blue waits
• Red Turn B: Red steps and attacks, triggering Blue's wait
  • Blue steps and attacks (Red acrobatic dodges)
  • Red steps and attacks (Blue slips in for defense)
• Blue Turn B: Blue attacks (Red can not acrobatic dodge again until Red Turn C)

thank you all for the responds! I wanted this to be clear for me and future fights.