Layering armour.

[Sam Baughn]

When layering armour using the rules on B286, is the DX penalty per piece of layered armour, or is it just a single penalty regardless of how much you are wearing?

If it is just one penalty, is there anything (except common sense) to stop you wearing dozens of layers of leather armour?

[Ze'Manel Cunha]

It's per layer.

[Sam Baughn]

Originally Posted by Ze'Manel Cunha

It's per layer.

Per layer of armour, per layer on each location or per piece of armour?

For instance, If I am wearing leather pants, a leather jacket, a mail shirt, mail leggings, mail sleeves and a steel breastplate, what is my penalty?

[cccwebs]

Originally Posted by Perfect Organism

Per layer of armour, per layer on each location or per piece of armour?

For instance, If I am wearing leather pants, a leather jacket, a mail shirt, mail leggings, mail sleeves and a steel breastplate, what is my penalty?

Well, unless there's a different rule somewhere else, the mail shirt will have to be concealable as well as already being flexible. But, if it is, then use the worst penalty, in the penalty from wearing the leather armor, mail shirt, and steel breastplate.

[Sam Baughn]

Originally Posted by cccwebs

Well, unless there's a different rule somewhere else, the mail shirt will have to be concealable as well as already being flexible.

The mail shirt in the basic set is noted as being concealable.

[DanHoward]

LT goes into a little more detail. If only the legs are layered then the DX penalty only affects maneuvers that primarily involve the legs. This would include running, climbing, combat, but not mounted combat.

LT also has more detailed rules for concealing armour so the new layering rules only require the armour to be flexible.

[Ubiquitous]

If you layer a heavy Flexible DR with no Piercing protection underneath armor WITH Piercing Protection, does the Flexi DR protect against the Blunt Impact that Rigid DR transfers it's damage to?

EDIT: Not to hijack but this question seemed relevant to the topic being discussed.

[DanHoward]

Yes. IMO that is the main point of layering armour. One layer compensates for the deficiencies of the other.

Mail and padding is another good example. Mail is lousy at absorbing impact and padding is good. Mail lousy at stopping bodkins but good at stopping broadheads, while padding is good at stopping bodkins but less effective against broadheads.

[Ultraviolet]

Originally Posted by DanHoward

Yes. IMO that is the main point of layering armour. One layer compensates for the deficiencies of the other.

Mail and padding is another good example. Mail is lousy at absorbing impact and padding is good. Mail lousy at stopping bodkins but good at stopping broadheads, while padding is good at stopping bodkins but less effective against broadheads.

Ooooh. When *is* that Low tech coming out??? We're about to start out a Song of Fire and Ice campaign, and this stuff would rock there.

[Kuroshima]

Originally Posted by Ultraviolet

Ooooh. When *is* that Low tech coming out??? We're about to start out a Song of Fire and Ice campaign, and this stuff would rock there.

Soon ;)

Now seriously, you're not the only one wishing to see Low Tech, trust me, and it's going to rock for ALL TL 0-4 campaigns. The authors are THAT good, and the playtest was real intense (and sincerely, I'm sure than more than a little tiring for the authors. We playtesters are akin to cats, when it comes to herding us).

I would assume that we will see the PDF version (it has been SJG's policy, for a while, to release the PDF version before even sending the book to printers, to do a preemtive errata check, since Thaumatology), and there will be great rejoicing! (If I don't get comp-ed I'm buying the PDFs ASAP, and waiting for the dead tree, but it's because I absolutely love the smell of new books, because I feel that I'll have to lend the book to my players, and because while I have a net book, that can double up as a rather decent ebook reader, I feel that the technology isn't there yet)