08-28-2015, 10:02 AM | #1 |
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Musket Formations
What is the best way to represent a musket formation outside of the Mass Combat rules? I'm thinking a mob with a ranged attack that uses the Suppressing Fire rules but I'm not sure of the following:
Size (I know they were usually 2, 3, or 4 rows deep but how wide were they?) Skill (How well trained with these soldiers? Not well I think.) Morale (I assume people would rout before half of them died.) Aim (Did musket lines really Aim in the GURPS sense?) Range (How close did musket formations usually get before shooting?) |
08-28-2015, 10:17 AM | #2 | |
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08-28-2015, 10:35 AM | #3 |
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We can help, but musket warfare has a long history among several differing cultures. Are we talking Napoleonic? pike and shot? or what?
Some of the troops will be well trained. Yes, They will fall back before half of them die. Almost all military units do. The training is all about getting them to keep their ground and replace causalities. Also, remember that they either have bayonets or supporting melee elements. Napoleonic troops did a lot of hand to hand combat. And in the american revolution, the British found their greatest advantage was in hand to hand combat. Also, muskets generally weren't used for suppression fire. They were used to soften up the enemy formation before you charged it. Everyone would fire at once, in a volley. The hope was to mess up the enemy's formation so they were vulnerable when you hit them.
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08-28-2015, 11:10 AM | #4 | |
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They may not be intended to be used for all types of area fire, or well-suited to it, but they're what exists.
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The maneuver elements (by various names) were roughly 1000 men, plus or minus a factor of two. So, the width in line would be 200-500 men, so an average front on the order of several hundred yards. Again, a huge generalization. Quote:
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British battalions initially had ten companies and mostly fired under company control. Companies had intervals between them but I'm not certain how large the interval was, certainly no more than company width between companies and likely less. Battalions decreased in number of companies to eight, c. the American Revolution. However battalion frontages were likely less than that as the two flank companies were "specialist" troops, one being light infantry and the other grenadiers. Both flank companies were often detached from the battalion to form battalions of like specialists and the ordinary battalion's frontage would decrease accordingly. Depth of a unit was usually one pace between ranks in close order which varied with the unit involved (Canadian drill manuals as late as WWII had pace variances of as much as 6" depending on the infantry unit involved, with highlander, rifle and light infantry units having longer paces than the now-standard 30"). If firing in open order, there would be an additional three half-paces between each rank. For standard pace companies, depth of the unit would be 10' 6" in four ranks, 8' 6" in three ranks and 4' 0" in two ranks in close order. Depth in open order would be: 24' for four ranks, 17' 6" for three ranks and 8' 6" for two ranks. A single rank would have a depth of 9". Most of the musketmen would easily have a point in Black Powder Weapons (Musket), given that they drilled daily for easily four to eight hours a day depending on what else they might be given as tasks. Long-serving musketmen would obviously have higher skills in the drills for their weapon, sand at this point in time, musketry was almost entirely about the drills, which carried you through loading, firing and preparing the weapon for reloading on the battlefield as well as the evolutions for maneuvering as a unit on the battlefield. Anyone with a year's service in the ranks would easily have 4 points in the skill and a veteran with five years' device could easily justify having 20 points in skills and techniques, if any. The Highland drill Regulations of 1758 would cover whether or not Aiming in the GURPS sense applied. I don't have my copy at hand but, IIRC, no, they didn't aim in the GURPS sense as part of their firing drill, aiming amounted to being broadly pointed at the body of enemy troops. Certainly at the Battle of the Plains of Abraham (1759), the ranges at which firing occurred were no more than a hundred yards and for unrifled muskets that was still true as late as the Napoleonic Wars. Rifled muskets could reasonably expect to fire volleys at 300 to 400 yards range with the expectation of producing some casualties by the time of the Napoleonic wars. Last edited by Curmudgeon; 08-28-2015 at 02:38 PM. |
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08-28-2015, 12:45 PM | #7 | |
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Keeping your cool under fire (or as you saw the enemy's bayonets getting closer) while loading rapidly and not making mistakes (forgetting primer, leaving the ramrod in the muzzle) was most of it. Not sure how to represent this in game terms...make a skill roll to load with penalties for speed? Rapid loading as a technique? Make loading a series of skill checks (fast-draw cartridge, etc.)? Or simply institute skill break points: Musket at DX=2 shots/minute, Dex+1=3, Dex +3=4? |
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08-28-2015, 12:51 PM | #8 | |
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Is that a total misconception or was it just an uncommon? The widths suggest that the face of the line would have an SM between +8 and +11. Quote:
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08-28-2015, 02:06 PM | #10 | |
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Mechanical machine guns and lower reloading times made tight musket formations between rifle-armed troops dangerous by the time of the U.S. Civil War. Tight formations remained usable against less well-armed troops as late as the Battle of Omdurman (1898). Looser formations for engagement with the enemy began to be used in military practice about the time of the plains Indian wars in the U.S. (c. 1870). The other development over time with rifled muskets has been the adoption of better sighting systems which negate penalties, such as the Starlight scope for nighttime darkness penalties. As for firing by rank and reloading, it varies with the time period. Volley by the entire unit was the order of the day at the Battle of the Plains of Abraham. By Rorke's Drift (1879), firing by rank was the norm. I would suspect that the break point for firing as a whole unit vs. by rank would be the adoption of the breech-loading cartridge. That said, I've heard a story that I'm unable to substantiate that the American commander during one the American Revolutionary battles (Battle of Breed's Hill?) did employ firing by ranks (or at least withholding part of his fire) to defeat the British who thought the Americans had exhausted their fire and needed to reload, charging into a fresh volley at least twice. If true, and again I haven't found any substantiation for the story, it may well represent the first use of fire by rank, as the British apparently had no notion of that as a firing method [according to the story]. As a sidenote, rifle for rifled musket as an exclusive term seems to have developed about the period of the Sudan War/Boer War. Before then a rifle might refer to a rifled musket or a rifled cannon. Hence The 9-lbr. Rifle as a booklet in the Canadian War Museum Historical Series, a weapon used in Canada c. 1870. Last edited by Curmudgeon; 08-28-2015 at 02:47 PM. |
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