Steve Jackson Games - Site Navigation
Home General Info Follow Us Search Illuminator Store Forums What's New Other Games Ogre GURPS Munchkin Our Games: Home

Go Back   Steve Jackson Games Forums > Roleplaying > The Fantasy Trip

Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-06-2020, 01:28 PM   #1
Fred Skin
Fred Skin's Avatar
Join Date: Jun 2005
Default Gnomes?

I can't find any info about gnomes in ITL, even though they are listed in the index (Gnomes, 86) and there isn't any errata about it.

It's no big deal, I just noticed it while looking to see if there is any info on air travel
Fred Skin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2020, 01:38 PM   #2
hcobb's Avatar
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Pacheco, California
Default Re: Gnomes?

ITL 86: "Earth elementals are sometimes called gnomes, although this name is also applied to certain dwarves."

As for air travel I have a most interesting adventure coming up about a village in the sky and how they get around.
hcobb is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2020, 11:15 AM   #3
Fred Skin
Fred Skin's Avatar
Join Date: Jun 2005
Default Re: Gnomes?

Oh! That makes sense
Fred Skin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2020, 08:29 AM   #4
Join Date: Apr 2020
Default Re: Gnomes?

"this name is also applied to certain dwarves" parallels Tolkien's resorting to the use of the term Petty Dwarves in his setting for the first age. In his case, he resisted the more distinctively popular Gnomes because when he'd originally begun to conceive of Middle Earth he'd attached that name to what he later on revised to be the Elves, feeling that gnome reflected a degree of settled knowledge and refinement in the same vein as the Gnomes of Zurich from Illuminati lore, and especially in the appellation of gnomic literary forms. He was concerned that the term elf would denote a spritely figure of fun in the popular imagination, even as he himself was wont to use it in his Father Christmas letters.
As Petty Dwarves, Tolkien's racial characterization is what we'd likely see being pertinent to Gnomes overall. Though inheriting some dwarvish traditions, they harbored a dislike of Dwarves; having, "some said," been banished in ages past from their eastern enclaves. Those enclaves were ensconced in the mountain range that would constitute nearly the shoreline of the remade Middle Earth's second age after the western country was drowned beneath the waves when the Valar had to geologically rout out Morgoth's stronghold of Thangorodrim. The Petty Dwarves' further interactions only brought more distrust of Elves whom they despised equally to Orcs, & High Elves principally, since: "Nargothrond was first found and its delving begun by the Petty- Dwarves, long before Finrod Felagund came over the Sea" to displace them again. Their temperament equates roughly to Poe's figure of Hop- Frog: more passionate and furtively free living in the gypsy manner underneath, but of a hard outward reservation and possessiveness like to the Dwarves.
So they aren't heard of in the main after their lands are lost in the cataclysm that ends the first age. Perhaps on Cidri they're encountered with rarity due to some similar circumstance.
Droll is offline   Reply With Quote

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Fnords are Off
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:51 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.