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He has done five series in this vein: four on technology and one (The Day the Universe Change) on science's view of the world. All the series are on the internet if you know where to look with the first episode of the First Series called "The Trigger Effect". With regards to the one exception, that comes from the short story that "Road Not Traveled" was the prequel to Herbig-Haro which was republished once back in 1986 Thankfully "Herbig-Haro" can be found online via a link on the aliensoup forums. It's ok but not really on the level of "Road Not Traveled" as it gives only the humans prospective on events rather then both them and the aliens. |
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That way you might have better luck following the author's intention in assigning TLs. I could accept and see no contradiction in having Laser Pistol (UT TL9) being listed in different settings as a TL4^ Laser Pistol (Newton's experiments went unexpectedly well), a TL6+2^ Laser Pistol (Maxwellian Guns of the Tsar's Venusian Guard), or as a TL10 Laser Pistol. They all have the same general effect, but I would expect their stat lines to be different.
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Also Gurps is about the game effects, not necessarily the specifics.
A laser pistol has set damage dice and type whether it comes from literal laser and battery technology of the kind we could recognize or ritually enchanted crystals recharged by experts' prayers.
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Another example is the Nautilus of 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (advanced submarine, GURPS Steampunk pg 80) which uses cinematic sodium/mercury batteries which it must return to base to recharge. In GURPS 3e advanced submarine was listed TL(5+1) and but it is unclear if under GURPS 4e it should still be that TL. Moreover there as been at least one retcon of the Nautilus to having nuclear power (TL7) making advanced submarine TL(5+2) or a TL7 oddball. This means that depending on how one views advanced submarine it could be TL5^, TL(5+1), or TL7 (or should that be TL(5+2)^?). It doesn't help that way GURPS uses superscience and TL(x+y) is very inconsistent partly due to the way GURPS Steampunk and Steamtech used the later. There are things that really existed our world that if they had worked as presented would be superscience. |
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The current version of this is the Rorschach test is viewed as pseudoscience even by some in the field of psychology (with two court putting on less footing then a lie detector) |
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True. But because it didn't, if you make a GURPS setting where phrenology works, it's superscience.
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You pointed us to a list of pseudosciences, from which I chose phrenology as an easily recognised example, and you said that "if they had worked, they would be supersciences." But, that sentence doesn't parse. If they had worked, then they worked, and they would have been real, not superscience.
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