09-15-2017, 12:29 PM | #11 |
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Re: full list of powers for the seven dwarven rings of power
Possibly, although whether they would survive the fall of Mordor is another question. Note that, according to Gandalf, four of the Seven had already been consumed by dragons (and presumably destroyed). Sauron only had the other three in his possession, along with all of the Nine.
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09-16-2017, 02:29 PM | #12 |
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Re: full list of powers for the seven dwarven rings of power
I.C.E. Treasures of Middle-Earth pgs 91-96 lists powers and abilities of all the Rings of Power for Rolemaster if you can find a copy.
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09-16-2017, 03:05 PM | #13 |
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Re: full list of powers for the seven dwarven rings of power
Several on eBay, but one less than there was ten minutes ago.
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Note that exact results of a Ring will depend on an interaction between that Ring and its bearer, so each case may be a little unique. The Rings slow down the entropic effects of Time, which is probably the thing that makes them most 'perilous' (Gandalf's word) for mortals. Elves are by nature immortal, so that 'slowing' is good from their POV. But for mortals, it has a nasty tendency to stave off death past its natural time, which leads (at best) to Gollum, at worst to wraithdom. Even the Three Rings would be dangerous in that respect for mortals. But as JRRT says above, they also amplify the natural talents and abilities and powers of the wearer. 'Power in accordance with stature', as Gandalf puts it. The more powerful you naturally are, the more powerful a Ring will make you. The Dwarves are a special case on their own, they are mortal, but not like the other mortal races. The Rings can't make them live any longer or shorter, and (I suspect) could not make them invisible. But their natural talents with material things are amplified, as well as their possessive impulses about such things. The richer a Dwarf is, the richer a Ring could make him. A Ring would probably magnify a Dwarf's skills at forge and mine, too. The old ICE game system actually fit the Rings rather well in one respect. The ICE system assigns characters magic points, the more points, the more powerful a spell you can use. They also had 'spell multipliers', items that would multiply your power points. So a x2 multiplier item would double your power, a x3 would triple it. In the ICE system, the Great Rings tended to be x7 or x9 multipliers, with is huge. But it also means that the more power points you had to start with, the stronger a Ring makes you. If your natural level is 10, a x18 multiplier like the One Ring gives you 180 points. If your natural base is, say, 100, the Ring raises you up to 1800 points. IIRC Gandalf had 300 points in the ICE system naturally, so the One Ring would give him 5400 points, plus other powers.
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As for why the rings were not given to nine more men, Sauron needed the rings to enthrall the first nine. The Nazgul were unique among his subjects in allowing Sauron to take their competence for granted without fear of mutiny. They also had an exanimate aura of fear that allowed them to keep the other slaves in line. Giving away the rings would hurt that; the Nazgul would put their loyalty to the rings not to Sauron. It would be like Napoleon ceasing to feed the Imperial Guard. Sauron had enough preternatural spooks and wights under his thumb as well as enough corporeal monsters and enough orcs, and enough just plain human soldiers and slaves. He needed someone to both keep all that mess in line and be trustworthy enough to do his bidding. What other kind of creature, for instance, could he have sent to grab the ring in the early part of the book?
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Gil-galad, for ex, ruled a large empire in the Second Age, at its peak his dominion was said to extend to the edge of Mirkwood in Wilderland, and throughout most of Eriador and the upper Anduin Valley. At one time in the Second Age, Legolas' grandfather Oropher also ruled a substantial realm that included most of Mirkwood, and somebody ruled a realm that was centered on but larger than Lothlorien, though different writings differ on just who it was. But by the Third Age the Elves are a dwindling folk, more and more going over the Sea, probably the exodus was greater than their female fertility rate. To make it worse, a disproportionate percentage of those departing were Noldor and Sindar Elves, by far the most capable and able and knowledgeable Elves of Middle-earth. So the Elvish realms were shrinking, while Mannish populations were rising everywhere except for the Northwestern region. Quote:
I suspect that if he regained the One, he might have given the surviving Seven Rings to various Men, though, to create additional Nazgul. Once he had the One back, 'losing' a Ring would no longer be possible in practice.
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