07-03-2019, 09:59 AM | #21 | |
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Re: So What IS ruined after an Apocalypse?
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Its also worth remembering that while Fuels will degrade, they will still burn, just not in the finely controlled fashion that modern devices rely on.
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07-03-2019, 10:01 AM | #22 |
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Re: So What IS ruined after an Apocalypse?
Id guess while it is a rule of thumb but you can run significantly older tires, they will not be as good for grip, they may be less then completely round, they will likely start to develop cracks and so on but I've driven personally on tires with 20 years on them and they wheren't good but neither where they horrendously bad. They had spent most of that time stored with some on off use on them but not very many miles driven. It would surprise me if tires stored in a dark garage with decentish environment can't be driven for at least a while before they breakdown even after significantly longer then 20 years.
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07-03-2019, 10:01 AM | #23 |
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Re: So What IS ruined after an Apocalypse?
Need more info:
-Pre-apocalypse TL -Nature of the apocalypse -Climate/geography of adventure region |
07-03-2019, 10:29 AM | #24 | |
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In fact in the early 1990s I shot about 30 000 rounds of 9x19mm that was mostly dated from 1940s to 1960s without major problems, though there were more miss-fires than with newer ammo. |
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07-03-2019, 10:31 AM | #25 | |
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It would not be unexpected to find some solar energy solutions run 5-10 years after the last missed maintenance. Others will have failed for a variety of reasons before that maintenance was supposed to happen. Cinematically speaking most solar (and wind) power setups would work "forever" unless some outside force disrupts them (sabotage, natural disasters, animals, looting, whatever). And if the setting has one or more Super geniuses working on renewable energy sources, I'd find it likely that the lifespan (+ durability and efficiency) of these things would be dramatically increased compared to modern technology. |
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07-03-2019, 10:35 AM | #26 | |
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... Now I'm picturing the king of a small town being paraded around on his throne held aloft by a forklift as the procession goes back to his magnificent double-wide which has... HEAT! and a working well. and... a washing machine! |
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-TL was a mature TL8 that bordered on TL9 in some areas. Medicine was fairly advanced and there was superscience in the form of various items made by gadgeteers. -I discussed this upthread in post #14. -General climate in the Northern Hemisphere is like Alaska/Canada (those actual areas are barely habitable due to fast-moving glaciers and supremely cold weather). New York City is where they currently are, but I'm not sure where they might end up. Again, I was just looking for general information.
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07-03-2019, 11:20 AM | #29 | |
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I'd think of 10 years as the "best used before" date. But likely the tires on your car now were manufactured close to a decade ago if not longer for narrow tire types and they work just fine. Ammunition packed in a factory has a long shelf life. Its finely mixed powder packed air-tight. It takes real extremes of temperature to affect it. Over time the powder will lose potency but that's TIME TIME. 20 year old ammunition would work just fine and 100 year old ammunition would still be mostly reliable. Fuel goes so quickly. In the best circumstances gasoline goes inert enough that it won't run an engine in under a year. Diesel that isn't in a stirring tank makes it about a month before it gels. Humidity and temperature slashes those times. Crude Oil once exposed to air begins to tar and crust over so even if you have the skills to build a refinery, after a decade or so you need the skills to drill and build oil rigs too. Wiring corrodes. Electronic devices exposed to the elements that aren't glued-shut start start to go bad inside of a Decade and wouldn't be reliable after 20 years. Even kept indoors with reasonable protection things like clocks or electric motors or ovens wouldn't work as well after 50 years and computerized devices, smart phones, televisions. They'd be failing after 20-odd years. Canned food lasts a long time but after 10 years it gets increasingly less appealing than any other source of food. Dry foods only last as well as their packaging and how air-tight they can be made. Most aren't edible after 20-25 years. Unfoods really have crazy shelf lifes. Allegedly packages of Velveeta have remained edible over a decade and Twinkies have legendary long lives. Last edited by Black Leviathan; 07-03-2019 at 11:44 AM. |
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07-03-2019, 11:58 AM | #30 |
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Re: So What IS ruined after an Apocalypse?
And I assume some areas are going to build the largest greenhouses they can with available materials. (And no glass isn't needed, but it would be preferred.)
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