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Old 10-12-2005, 07:51 AM   #21
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I'm actually not particularly enamoured of the map style. I see that it works pretty well, but to me it just seems to obviously computer-made. Also I'm completely spoiled by the quality, beauty, and usefullness of Columbia Games' (and the fan base's) maps for Harn.
A couple examples of what I'm talking about are available around lythia.com.
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Old 10-12-2005, 09:13 AM   #22
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We did not do a big poster-sized map of the whole continent, and I think that may have to go down in our post-mortem as a flaw in the book. The book is useful without it, but it would have been even better with one.
I believe this is a great chance to publish a "Banestorm GM's Screen" with a poster-sized map together. That will be a "must-own" product.

Unfortunatelly my book doesn't arrived yet (ETA for Brazil is october, 30), but the art inside the PDF previews are really impressive.

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Old 10-12-2005, 09:16 AM   #23
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I believe this is a great chance to publish a "Banestorm GM's Screen" with a poster-sized map together. That will be a "must-own" product.
Oh, man, now that is an idea I can get behind 100%. Put a smaller 2-page map of Yrth on the cover of the GM's Screen itself and include a larger folded poster map with the screen.
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Old 10-12-2005, 09:41 AM   #24
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We did not do a big poster-sized map of the whole continent, and I think that may have to go down in our post-mortem as a flaw in the book. The book is useful without it, but it would have been even better with one.
The missing world map is my only serious complaint.

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Two questions I'd like to ask people looking at the book. Which art pieces do you like the best? Which art pieces do you not like, or like the least?
I have been very impressed with the art in this book. It is probably the best overall of the 4e line. I think limiting the number of artists helped the book have a "style" instead of overly varied art quality. It helps that I like the artists chosen.

None of the pieces jumped out at me as bad but there are some I am less happy with. I wouldn't bring them up if you hadn't asked for specifics.

p12 - Hand perspective off. Not a fan of the "fuzzy" look.
p27 - Body perspective off.
p96 - Too small. It looks funny on the page all alone. It is appropriate for the text but should have been larger.
p147 - Not a fan of the "fuzzy" look.
p218 - Harpies are tough to draw without looking ridiculous.
p233 - Reminds me too much of Warhammer Fantasy. Must be the mohawk.

None of the pieces jumped out at me demanding more attention but there are some I really like.

p71 - Love the Angry Arab.
p178 - The "fuzzy" look works great here.
p185 - The worried/sleazy arab. I love the look on his face. I wouldn't trust him to empty my chamber pot.
p187 - I don't know if it was intentional, but all the faces look like the same man. I liked seeing the same character in different roles.
p188 - The Snooty Elf.
p191 - Bah! Puny humans!
p195 - That particular Medusa needs Attractive (even taking into account the snakes!).
p197 - Too small. I want to see the rest of that picture.
p201 - Love this style, though it is a bit jarring an out of place with the rest of the book. Looks like Fernandez.
p207 - Ditto p201.
p222 - Excellent piece.

My biggest art praise are the maps. I just love the style chosen. It really helps me stay in the mood of the setting. I can see these same maps being used by folks on Yrth. Great choice!

Hope these help.
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Old 10-12-2005, 10:03 AM   #25
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I believe this is a great chance to publish a "Banestorm GM's Screen" with a poster-sized map together. That will be a "must-own" product.
An excellent idea!
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Old 10-12-2005, 11:58 AM   #26
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Pardon the AOLness, but "me t00" on the being bummed out at the lack of a full-sized map. I loved the fold-out map at the back of Fantasy/2E and was looking forward to, at the very least, a map that took up a full two-page spread in the middle of the book somewhere. Having the main map of Ytarria presented as a 2"x4" rectangle in the middle of an intro page is unforgivable, turning a five-star product into a low-four-star one at best.

I would really suggest that SJG ask J. Kovach to merge his detail maps into a full-scale, detailed Yrth map, and make it available as a poster. Having the guy who made them do it means that he can fill in the blanks, adjust the scale, and all that fun stuff. Anyone serious about running a Banestorm game will want such a product, and it'll pay for itself after enough purchases.

On the upshot, the detail maps of each area are nice, and done to appropriate size. I haven't read it all yet, but so far I'm totally happy with the content. And the artwork is nicer than average for GURPS. I'll try to make a detailed list of artwork likes/dislikes for future posting.
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Old 10-12-2005, 12:28 PM   #27
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I believe this is a great chance to publish a "Banestorm GM's Screen" with a poster-sized map together. That will be a "must-own" product.
Excellent idea. Put in a Banestorm map and make sure what's on the screen doesn't entirely overlap with the generic GURPS GM Screen.
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Old 10-12-2005, 01:44 PM   #28
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I would really suggest that SJG ask J. Kovach to merge his detail maps into a full-scale, detailed Yrth map, and make it available as a poster.
What would you pay for such a product?
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Old 10-12-2005, 01:49 PM   #29
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For the poster alone, maybe 10 to 12 $?
With a Banestorm-GM-Screen: 15 or 17 $?
Does that seem reasonable?
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Old 10-12-2005, 02:17 PM   #30
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What would you pay for such a product?
I would pay standard prices for both the screen with fold up map, and for the poster. That means:

9.95$ for the poster, like the rest of SJG's posters
19.95$ for the screen, like the standard GURPS 4th ed GM screen.
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