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Old 01-23-2019, 03:58 AM   #21
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So...I assume blue mages would hire some undergrads from the local university, but what about black and red? I guess black mages could do the Thriller thing, but red mages seem SOL.
Red mages are quite possibly goblins, so they get a crowd of helpers because the Goblin King said so. Or they're dragons and either don't need help (they have some form of big energy pool), or the local goblins worship them as gods and thus help (or they get eaten/sacrificed, and help anyway).
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Old 01-23-2019, 08:07 AM   #22
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Being benevolent is a lot of work. Particularly for the kind of person who uses Steal Youth.

But seriously I'd be fine if Steal Youth was a straight run from Steal Vitality.
I thought the point of using a ritual and participants was to use Youth instead of Steal Youth.
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Old 01-23-2019, 12:38 PM   #23
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Red mages are quite possibly goblins.
No, no. Goblins cast yellow magic! It says so in pyramid 3-28 (p.11).
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Old 01-23-2019, 01:13 PM   #24
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I agree that it sort of feels like learning how to run before learning how to hobble but think of it from this perspective. Before you can learn to make a microtransmitter that is less reliable and uses less power to transmit you first must know how to build a normal radio in order to get an understanding of the fundamentals. The Youth spell teaches the caster how the magic interacts with age. Steal Youth is an adaptation that allows the caster to do the magic cheaper and dirtier.
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Old 01-23-2019, 01:37 PM   #25
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Exactly. Logically, you can't steal someone's energy to make someone younger without knowing how to make someone younger in the first place.
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Old 01-23-2019, 03:30 PM   #26
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But if "youth" is a resource or form of energy (given the magical limitations some settings have on bypassing death due to old age, that's reasonable), then creating it out of nowhere would logically be harder than simply transferring it.

If there's an "age" spell that just makes the victim older, that would handle the concept pretty well. So you start by just burning up the resource, then you learn to transfer it, and then you learn to conjure or concentrate it without harming anyone.
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