06-13-2018, 01:23 PM | #21 | |
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It makes using an over-strength bow easier*, but I'm not sure how much easier. When I was younger I could break over a 60 pound compound bow and hold it for several seconds, long enough to sight and take aim, but I couldn't do that with a 60 pound recurve. |
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06-13-2018, 01:29 PM | #22 | ||
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The stories of "two opponents transfixed" aren't necessarily fanciful. There are stories of Crusaders getting "pinned" to their horses by Saracen/Ottoman horse bows as a result of hits to the rider's thigh. Additionally, plenty of modern bow-hunters have reported torso shots (ideally to the Vitals - double lung shot) which completely penetrated a deer's body with sufficient force to drive the arrow well into the ground beyond the target! Given that a typical whitetail deer is effectively SM 0 and has 9-10 HP (assuming ~100-150 lb. live weight) that's pretty close to human size. In GURPS terms, treat it as a critical hit which inflicts double or triple damage with basic damage which inflicts (target HP) + n HP of damage vs. an unarmored target. That means overpenetration which inflicts at least 1 HP of damage to the next target downrange. A composite bow of ST 14, which inflicts maximum damage, does 6 + 3 HP of basic damage. Roll a CH and say you double damage. That leaves 8 HP of basic damage to overpenetrate. Plenty of energy to do serious damage to another victim! Quote:
Part of drawing a bow is being able to draw it consistently and with a good release every time. Even if you can physically draw a heavier bow, you're going to have problems practicing with it for long and accuracy won't be as good due to muscle fatigue in your arms and fingers and inability to fully control the draw and the release. In GURPS terms, that's a skill penalty for using too-heavy a weapon and/or FP losses due to use of Extra Effort. Additionally, if you're struggling to draw a bow you cannot take time to aim. You must draw and then quickly release. Peering down your arrow with your bow drawn while you take your Wait or Aim maneuvers requires a bow you can easily control and/or ST-based Bow skill rolls. |
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06-13-2018, 01:46 PM | #23 |
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Re: Question about Muscle-powered Range Weapons...
You could design a compound bow with a draw force curve that didn't dip at the end, but it's hard to come up with a reason you'd want to.
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06-13-2018, 03:10 PM | #24 | |
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Also, the direct result is that giving a character an overstrength bow that they are too weak to properly draw increases the damage they do should they manage to hit anything with it.
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06-13-2018, 06:09 PM | #25 |
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Some designs have 80-90% letoff - You can hold a 70# bow with 7-14# of force at full draw. Check out the force-draw curves of modern compound bows. They're nutso.
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06-13-2018, 06:16 PM | #26 | |
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06-13-2018, 06:42 PM | #27 |
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I'll accept that. My bow is over 40 years old, so it might either be "older design" or just worn out.
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06-13-2018, 08:02 PM | #28 | |
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06-13-2018, 09:10 PM | #29 |
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So it does, quite clearly and distinctly. I guess you get to choose whether you like the idea and go with LT, or don't and stick with Characters.
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