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03-10-2008, 10:17 AM | #1 |
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Long-term strategy for the Solar System
The leaders of the Great Powers of Earth aren't stupid - and they have some very smart SAI advisers as well. So they have likely dedicated a lot of resources and computing hours to figuring out the long-term trends that affect the colonization of the solar system - and how to make sure that their own interests are best served.
So, what do they think the solar system will look like in 10, 20, or 50 years? And what plans are they pursuing to shape it to their liking? Here are some of my thoughts: - China: They will likely continue to make sure that they remain the dominant power on Mars. However, the upcoming completion of the Olympus beanstalk means that emigrating to Mars will become a lot more affordable even without a government sponsor, resulting in a population boom. China will have to increase its own incentives for loyal Chinese citizens to go there before the non-Chinese population becomes the majority - and start patrolling more and more territory outside of the American colony to remind everyone who is boss around here. They will also redouble their own efforts to gain better access to He-3, since they can't afford to be boycotted a second time. - USA: The USA always had a problem with long-term plans throughout the 21st century, and this might continue into the 22nd as well. They will continue to build up their Titan colony, but it's hard to predict what else they will do. They might support pro-independence movements on Mars just to annoy the Chinese - and this might draw the two of them into an armed conflict. - EU: I think the Venus project is mostly a straw man - something to distract the rest of the world from the real plans of the EU for the solar system. The EU isn't really interested in building up colonies of its own. However, they probably assume that sooner or later many colonies will become independent, and once that happens they want to make sure that these colonies are sympathetic to their values. That's why the EU sponsors all those immigrants on Mars, which otherwise wouldn't make sense - why pay a lot of money so that your best and brightest move to another planet? One these new nations come into their own, they might even join the EU or something similar - an interplanetary alliance of nations arising from the EU. But even if that happens, those European expatriates are in a perfect position to help shape events in the colonies - and pave the way for the next wave that will arrive once the Olympus Project is complete. - TSA: Right now, they can't do much except sending lone operatives up there - but they need their own space presence in the long run or they will keep on slipping behind the rest of the world. Their own asteroid mining, their own source of He-3... Malaysia and Indonesia have good locations for a beanstalk elevator of their own. At the moment, this project would be too expensive for the TSA, both politically and economically. But after the completion of the Olympus beanstalk, the price for such a mega-engineering project will drop... Your thoughts?
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03-10-2008, 07:55 PM | #3 | ||
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Re: Long-term strategy for the Solar System
Interesting topic. Here are some of my thoughts about it:
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However, it is true that neither the colony on Mars nor a hypothetical one on Venus are very important in the grander scheme of things. 2,5 million people live on the red planet - that is almost nothing compared to the 11,500 million people on Earth. Nor does Mars, or Venus, or Islandia make any of the powers backing them much more powerful. Or much less powerful. Perhaps in a more distant future Mars and Venus may have hundreds of millions of inhabitants and are Great Powers in their own right, complete with mighty space fleets or something (in which case they are likely to secede, and their mother states still don't gain power and may even find that they have created new rivals) but for the time being the strategic main show is taking place with regards to the situation on Earth. Which does not mean that space is unimportant. There is one strategic issue in outer space that is extremely important for the situation on the homeworld and that is of course the control of He3. I would suspect that this could be the most important conflict of all and the main actors of this drama are likely to be China and the USA. Over the course of the 21st century, China has become the world's foremost power but not everything has gone well for the people's republic. Instead of coming to dominate Japan or even only Korea, these two powers have started their own alliance, the PRA. But the real debacle is Indochina. This region should have been destined to become China's frontyard, since its states are teeming with ethnical Chinese who are mostly in charge of the respective economies of Southeastern Asia. Instead, they formed the TSA and became China's most bitter enemy. Imagine what it would mean for the USA if the nations of Middle America would form an alliance against the States! As a result, China is encircled on all sides by nations who are not too friendly to it, or such who are even outright enemies. Another great blow came during the Pacific War, when America started an He3 embargo against the war parties, including China. The meaning of this and the enormous loss of face that resulted for the PRC cannot be underestated. While Beijing might have tried everything to limit the damage - including to play the importance of the matter down as much as it could - it is indeed likely to assume that China will do everything to prevent this from happening again. It is even possible that they want to turn the tables entirely: while no one must be able to start an embargo against China, why should China, as the number one power, not be able to do it to others? America may find that it has awakened a dragon. This may be the very much the situation: in the first decade of the 22nd century, China starts to develop its own He3 mining operations on Uranus - and possibly on Saturn as well, the planet doesn't belong to America, after all. But on top of it, they start an enormous fleet building program and this may be no empty threat. Assume, for example, that the EU would customary spend 2.5% of its GDP for military purposes, while the USA spends 3.5% and the PRC 4.5%. With China's economy being one and a half times as large as the one of the second largest power, their defense budget would be larger than those of America and Europe together and almost double as large as the US budget alone. Considering that the American Angel class SDVs are extremely expensive, it may come to it that, before the year 2110, an US fleet of around 35 SDVs sees itself confronted with a Chinese fleet of around 120 (less expensive) SDVs. The numerical superiority with regards to SCVs could be similiar. Worse: China would be able to sustain this fleet as much as the US can theirs and, being an dictatorship, might also able to raise military spending as much as America can, so arming the Chinese to death is likely to be impossible. It is interesting to consider what might happen then. If the Us do not give in, the result might be a veritable "Cold War in Space". It is even possible that something otherwise surprising comes to pass: the US and the TSA might start to develop closer ties, despite their obvious differences in ideology. (After all, in earlier times the US was also part time ally of the Sovietunion under Stalin and long time economic ally of Saudi Arabia). In a conflict against China, these powers may find that they are natural allies. This situation also contains the recipe for a hot war. Simply assume that on one occasion China tries to assert its dominance over He3 and expects the US to back down - by attempting to implement a short term embargo. But the Americans do not back down and shooting starts, somewhere in the Outer System. The conflict spirals out of control and reaches Mars - while everyone on Earth jumps into foxholes and hopes the worst can still be prevented.
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Re: Long-term strategy for the Solar System
I guess it depends on when the Singularity hits ;).
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If they were to create their own official colonies on Mars or anywhere else in the outer solar system, both China and the USA would stop seeing them as partners and start seeing them as rivals - and that's a race that the EU cannot win. But this way they have their own people in key positions in both colonies, and they will be able to influence how the eventual independence plays out. After all, a true independent Mars will only work if both colonies are able to work together. And which group is in position to mediate between the two halves? The Europeans... EU membership for off-world nations is obviously a very long-term goal - it won't happen until Martian independence is truly well-established and grudgingly accepted by both China and the USA. And even then, it might not happen after all - but at the very least, it might be more sympathetic to Europe than to either of its "mother countries". If those plans work out, that is.
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So, you might want to keep that European policy of yours a secret. Which would leave the question who in Europe might be behind it, if it is a secret, it can't be part of the open democratic process, after all. It would boil down to some influential people meeting secretly or something. But the one question still left unanswered is why anyone rich and powerful in Europe should be interested in these underhand influences in Mars in the first place. Colonies are nice and well, they give people a chance of a new start somewhere else and provide societies as a whole with a feeling of progress, so let's start one of our own. But, as said, for the time being, for a long time being, they are not really important for the bulk of humanity. As I see it, it might be difficult to formulate and implement a grand strategy for Europe - this entity is a lose confederation and it can't be expected to simply say "hop" and everyone jumps. (Not that the USA or China won't have similiar problems but in the end the PRC may have the least diffculties here). A long term idea, many Europeans could identify with, might be to further the idea of an "Earth without borders". There is nothing wrong with trying to further the memetic ideals the European Union has been built upon, but it has to happen slowly and without any underhandedness. A more concrete concept to implement this is to work on the expansion of the European Union by convincing other nations to join in. The next obvious candidat for this might be Russia. This nation could be considered European itself, but it has always stayed out of the loop, often even being a threat for its western neighbours. While this is not the case anymore, to build a "common European house" is a dream still unrealized in 2100. But it may come finally true in the 2120ts if the EU works on it and Russia agrees. After that, a really big step could be considered. If the European Union should really mean the idea of "being a template for eventual world government" it might be attempted to bring a union of EU and PRA about, in the time after Russia has joined. Naturally, it cannot be expected that this Alliance will simply join the European Union, there would be need for compromises on the European side as well. It might work in the case that it is possible to convince the PRA to accept the idea that SAIs have the right to be full fledged citizens while the Europeans reduce their level or preservationism - and isn't it only through this way, through compromising, that a global commonwealth could be build eventually? The resulting entity would not be "European" or "Pacific Rim" anymore but an confederation of nations that almost spans the globe. It might be called "International Alliance" (INA) and would be the living proof that a unified world is possible. This could be true by 2150, if things go well.
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And thanks to that approach, European expatriates can be found in both colonies, and are thus in a prime position to network and mediate in some pan-Martian crisis (like a struggle for independence). No other group will have as many connections across the whole of Mars - and that can't help but be useful down the road. Of course, some analysts in both China and the USA will likely suspect what is going on. But will enough people listen to them? After all, that's a threat that will only materialize decades down the road, and most leaders on both sides will be more worried with the military forces of the other colony - why worry about a bunch of European engineers and their families when the Americans/Chinese are a much more visible threat to their own ambitions, both on Mars and beyond? Besides, all those corporations find the expertise of those European immigrants and their skills really useful, and will likely pressure their governments to continue let them in. The trick with political conspiracies in the Transhuman Space era - as it is the case now - is not to keep them secret. That's almost impossible anyway. No, the trick is to keep a low enough profile so that others worry about larger and more immediate issues. Quote:
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If people would have thought that way, all of human history would grinded to a halt long ago. Take only technological advancement - any invention made could potentially disturb the balance of power, after all (some actually did), so please could everyone stop with that? Besides. The question was what the long-term strategy of the European Union might be. What might they aim for during the next fifty years? Russia joining the Union won't happen overnight, that goes even more for a fusion of EU and PRA. Instead we are talking about a long-term goal. Cooperation is slowly increased, politicans and buisiness tycoons meet a bit more often than in the past, treaties and agreements are signed. Both will be slow processes that could eventually culminate in Russia (and the Ukraine, true) joining the EU, perhaps in 15 or 20 years, and possibly in a joining of PRA and EU, in maybe 30 to 50 years. Will especially the latter cause the EU to be overstretched? Not really. It's a merger of two, not an extension of one, so, if neither the European Union nor the Pacific Rim Alliance is overstretched, there seems to be the definite possibility that a fusion of both is not, either. Or will the new Super-Alliance disturb the "delicate balance of power" that exists on the world in half a century? Who can say? We don't even know wether there will be such a balance in 50 years, wether it will be delicate and how exactly it will look like. Perhaps the founding of a larger Alliance will even restore the balance that might have been lost 15 years before. In any case, if the character of the EU and the PRA should not have changed too much, the resulting, larger Alliance will be democratic and peaceful, so no one has a real reason to be afraid of it. But most of all, when it happens, if it happens, it will be an entirely voluntary process for both, the EU and the PRA, and everyone in the world will have had decades of time to get used to the idea. Overall, it is a worthy goal for the longer term, on the other side, to do nothing because you worry about possibly disturbing hypothetical balances is not so clever a strategy.
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The people who move to Mars have to be both smart and motivated -- both admirable qualities. However, they won't be the top-tier. One or two steps down, only, but not quite top-notch. Why? Because the truly top-notch can ask for, and get, the best that Earth has to offer. And, Earth has far more to offer than any other planet. Mars might be fun to visit, but why would you want to live there permanently when you can get the finest food, the finest drink, the finest mates, the finest intellectual conversation, the finest lifestyle -- at all levels, and in every way -- on Earth? Did the Rockefellers move to Alaska, when they'd made their millions? No. They stayed in the urban northeast United States. Did J.P. Morgan, or Thomas Edison, or Henry Ford, or Albert Einstein move to the wilderness, once they'd achieved phenomenal success? No. They stayed at the loci of maximum intellectual stimulation. That's where the best and the brightest always stay. Those who move to Mars, or other planets, will have considerable competence and considerable drive, and that's worthy of respect. However, they'll move to a frontier to carve out a new home for themselves, because they don't have what it takes to reach the top tier of their places of origin. Only after Mars stops being a frontier, and starts to offer the advantages of high civilization -- art, music, culture, education, intellectual and emotional stimulation of all sorts -- will it become attractive to the "best and brightest." I sometimes wonder where this notion comes from, that the "best and the brightest" are the ones who leave civilization, rather than the contrarians, the frustrated and the disgruntled? Is it common in other places than the United States? Is it common amongst groups other than gamers? As for me, were I to achieve top-tier social regard and financial independence, I would never head to the wilderness to stay for more than a month or so. But, I'd sure as heck have apartments in Manhattan, London, Ingolstadt (great town!), Sydney, Rio, and the Italian Riviera. I'd bet that, while most might pick different locations, the theme would be the same. I see no reason to think the people of the 22nd Century would behave any differently. Why spend all your time trying to get hydroponic beans to grow on Mars, when you can eat filet mignon in Paris, any time you want? Why try to maintain one's academic standing on Mars, with a nearly 30-minute communication lag-time, and few peers with which to discuss one's ideas, real-time, over a latte? Why watch a virtual reality program that came out a month ago, on Earth, when you can create the next big thing while living in Beverly Hills or Bollywood? Why design chimera for High Arcadia, when you can design the next human upgrade at Pittsburgh's Carnegie-Mellon University -- an hour's flight from Manhattan, and less than six hours from the heart of Europe? And, speaking of Europe, I think we may start to see what lies at the heart of their strategy for the 22nd Century (to the extent they have one). Earth is, and shall remain, the heart and (more importantly) the mind of human civilization. If the memes in that mind are European...
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