07-05-2018, 12:35 AM | #11 | |
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Re: Moving with Wait maneuver
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It seems a Step-and-Wait is allowed; Douglas Cole, Hans, and Dr. Kromm said to, even though it may not be completely clear in TS. But not a Move together with Wait per se, just the short Step. That allows for slow-and-sure Slicing the Pie. For quick-and-dirty do a Move and Attack, with the clause that you evaluate, in order to avoid shooting if there is not target. Because you likely don't know if there is a target until you move into line of sight of it.
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07-05-2018, 03:51 AM | #12 | ||
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Re: Moving with Wait maneuver
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I don't think I'd allow more than a step's worth of movement to be done with a wait.
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07-05-2018, 04:56 AM | #13 | |
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I also agree with the opinion that if the Step is taken before/at the same time as the Wait then there is no more movement. And that a Step and Wait into the LOS of a stationary person (a "camper") waiting target does *not* allow the camper to shoot first automatically because 'the Step triggered his Wait, before the other guy's Wait took place'
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07-05-2018, 05:59 AM | #14 | ||
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e.g. a camper is in a room covering the doorway with a wait "I'll shoot anyone coming into the doorway", outside the room someone in slicing the pie with a wait "Ill slowly slice the pie and shoot anyone I see in the room as they are revealed". I'd resolve this as per Slicing the Pie in TS (and the linked thread), i.e. a QS but the step'n'wait-er is penalised. But if say that room had no roof and there was also a sniper crouched on balcony two stories up and 100m away covering that doorway with their own wait, as well as eh chap in the room. I'd probably let that Sniper wait go first automatically once the step'n'wait-er moved into the doorway
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07-05-2018, 06:31 PM | #15 | ||
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No, you are wrong. Move is not allowed (I typed move, but it should have been Move). Secondly All Out Attack IS allowed. And you can All Out Attack Slam for full move, not to mention half Move on a vanilla All Out Attack. This was entirely the point I was making. You can move your full move (say 10 hexes) on an All out attack slam after a wait, but you can't MOVE say 3 hexes... it seems odd. |
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07-05-2018, 07:08 PM | #16 | ||
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Re: Moving with Wait maneuver
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I think this "Wait and move" issue is really, really deserving for Pyramid article about this topic, with clarification and optional rules :) Last edited by GWJ; 07-05-2018 at 07:28 PM. |
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07-05-2018, 07:18 PM | #17 |
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07-06-2018, 01:12 AM | #18 | |||
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Re: Moving with Wait maneuver
Maybe you'd like to read the paragraph labeled "Movement" under Wait?
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07-06-2018, 06:49 AM | #19 | |||
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By RAW, you are motionless whole time. Only when your specified trigger will happen, you can transfer Wait into specified maneuver. Before trigger you are do nothing all the time, just standing still and waiting for trigger. |
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07-06-2018, 08:37 AM | #20 | |
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Re: Moving with Wait maneuver
I don't think evileeyore has said otherwise about RAW?
Here's what they posted originally (I've bolded for emphasis) Quote:
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