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Certainly you can to interpret such things in that way, but they weren't made for helping to remind people the wordly vanity, rather at the contrary.
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12-27-2009, 04:36 PM | #32 |
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Re: [DF] Help with creating a Buddhist cleric and holy warrior
Why would that be of any importance at all? That sounds almost like an appeal to authority. (Again, I'm no expert on the issue, but your words run counter to my impressions of Buddhism's position on . . . well, persons.)
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In any case, the point here is that the OP wants a cleric/monk combo with a buddhist feel. I'm for giving him what he wants. There is no 'real' Buddhism, there is no 'real' Dungeon Fantasy, there is no one to offend. Calling the class "non-Buddhist tantric guru" to avoid offending or misrepresenting True Buddhism is silly. In DF, Jesus was not a simple man with some good ideas - he was a spiritual powerhouse who could kick some ass. Why should the monotheists have all the fun? I want a monk who can stare holes in the walls and reveal a succubus as a withered hag. DF is about having fun. Allow me to repeat myself: Quote:
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12-27-2009, 04:57 PM | #35 | |
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Now, we're talking about things in which a supernatural element is involved. The disciple needs to be empowered by his master, and the disciple needs empowered means (Saktopaya). OFC for believers in materialism that makes no sense. Also, people used to despise all kind of authority rages hearing things like these, and they proceed to distort ancient teachings for suiting them to their own tastes. In that way, people makes falsifications and are willing to be deceived by them, too.
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There were no real buddhas skipping the real lines of transmission. However these things weren't mentioned openly, as many others. Quote:
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Regarding Jesus . . . I also think a christian monk isn't well suited for Dungeon Fantasy, except as a healer. Jesus "teachings" and ways had very little to do with the Dungeon Fantasy themes. Maybe the Old Testament is better . . . As you can see I'm not "favoring" Christians here. Quote:
OK, go with your DF Buddhist Cleric/Holy Warrior . . . B-dog was asking for some ideas regarding that, and he has, I believe, some useful and interesting answers.
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12-27-2009, 11:06 PM | #37 |
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Re: [DF] Help with creating a Buddhist cleric and holy warrior
Thanks for the help. I want to say that I am not looking for any true buddhism just sort of the fluff and kewl stuff that goes with it. I also would like to say that a Christian cleric would be fine for a DF PC too because they would be like the Hollywood vampire slayer cleric and would fit fine in a DF game IMO.
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My suggestion, my nefarious plan, as a Buddhist, is to employ skillful means to teach about the dharma while having fun. To this end, I suggest the yamabushi template in GURPS Japan. It needs Discipline of Faith to be sohei. If the OP is interested, we can work out some lenses. Last edited by tantric; 12-28-2009 at 08:31 AM. |
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12-28-2009, 08:28 AM | #39 |
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I don't see the point of ascribing some mystical specialness to the things 'handed down' from some guru. That sound dangerously close to treating guru as some sort of low-level deity.
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12-28-2009, 11:35 AM | #40 |
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As I understand, this is supposed to be a fantasy. Low-level deities are perfectly at home in the context.
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