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You do not officially exist. Even the highest authorities in the land know nothing about you. In a fantasy setting, you are a “mysterious wanderer”; magical divination cannot discover conclusive details about your past or true identity. In a high-tech world, you don’t appear in the public records – and if computer databases exist, they contain no evidence of your existence. You must provide a reason for this; e.g., your parents hid you away at birth, you are legally dead, or you somehow managed to destroy all the records (explain how!).I appreciate your patients with me. Based on the RAW, you definitely need to come up with in-game explanations for why and how you remain Zeroed. (I only have the first GURPS Action. It didn't extrapolate on Zeroed at all (that I could find).) You say "zeroed keeps you scrubbed". So, if a Zeroed character is pulled over for speeding in a friend's car, by RAW, what do think should happen? I'd have the authorities detain him and process him. In a realistic setting, I'd basically say the character's Zeroed advantage is gone. In a cinematic setting, I'd be pretty lenient in allowing the character to come up with an in-game explanation for how he'll get himself re-Zeroed. I have no problem with Advantages working differently in cinematic settings than they do in realistic settings. I.e. guidelines in the Action series are not meant to be applied universally. I'm not convinced the way Zeroed works in for an Action campaign has to be the way it works in a realistic campaign.
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Intuition - realistic, but Danger Sense - not realistic? Explain yourself, man.
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Blast! I've been found out. (Yet another reason to be Zeroed: to protect your time-traveller status. :) )
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The supernatural protection from Divination aspect of Zeroed isn't realistic for obvious reasons.
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Say no more. If somebody would please conjure a link to Kromm's post I'll move Zeroed firmly into the cinematic camp and cite Kromm's post as justificaiton for the nay-sayers (such as I used to be).
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And yes, most of the details of the description of Zeroed in the Basic Set are apparently wrong. As it is written there, it's a disadvantage. It's original intent is to model characters who are able to remain mysterious even in a world with universal IDs - it comes from Cyberpunk, or really more from Roger Zelanzny's proto-cyberpunk work like My Name is Legion and Coils - where the characters with in necessarily have the ability to actively modify those databases and/or generate perfectly checkable false IDs. The advantage version not actually no data exists, it's Immunity to some method of discovering information turning up anything you don't want it to. That's why despite what you might thing from the Basic wording, it actually does make sense to take Zeroed (divination), which is probably the topic to look for to find the threads where this problem has been hashed out before.
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