12-10-2015, 10:07 AM | #1 |
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High-Tech advanced body armor: DR 35, 5 vs crushing
Does anyone know the reasoning as to why the Advanced Body Armor (ABA) from High-Tech, p 66-67, has DR 35 against all attacks except crushing, against which it is only DR 5? Why DR 5?
I'm trying to estimate the stats for lighter or heavier variants of ABA, and that weird armor profile makes it difficult. It'd be easier if I understood why ABA protects so well against acid and fire but has such weakness against crushing attacks.
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12-10-2015, 10:26 AM | #2 |
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Re: High-Tech advanced body armor: DR 35, 5 vs crushing
It's a flexible armor (thus, bad vs crushing) with refractory ceramic inserts (good against intense flames and corrosives, though it's neither insulated nor sealed, so heat will conduct through it and acid will leak through it. Neither of those effects is anything GURPS tries to model, though).
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12-10-2015, 10:40 AM | #3 |
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Re: High-Tech advanced body armor: DR 35, 5 vs crushing
If you're looking for a way to vary armor thickness, you may want to check out Low-Tech Armor Design in Pyramid #3/52. Don't let the title fool you. Modern materials are covered.
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12-10-2015, 11:06 AM | #4 |
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Re: High-Tech advanced body armor: DR 35, 5 vs crushing
I'm already using a variant of that article (Better Fantasy Armor!), which doesn't cover ABA anyway. Thanks for the pointer, though.
Thanks for the response, Anthony. I still don't have much of a feeling for the crushing DR cap at 5 - would having your ABA be twice as thick give crushing DR 10, or still leave it at 5? Would having the thickness of the scales give you crushing DR 3?
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12-11-2015, 01:31 PM | #5 |
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Re: High-Tech advanced body armor: DR 35, 5 vs crushing
Actually, he wants Cutting-Edge Armour Design, from Pyramid #3/85. Which is the same thing but with explicit stats for a whole bunch of TL6-9 materials.
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12-11-2015, 01:38 PM | #6 |
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Re: High-Tech advanced body armor: DR 35, 5 vs crushing
Realistically, the Advanced Body Armour in HT is superscience. The real armour it was based on was decertified after multiple rounds of testing, and the stats that showed up in HT aren't consistent with much of anything out there besides their marketing materials. Extrapolate the one in HT however makes sense to you, but don't try and match it with the real world — and if realism does matter significantly to you, go with the article I mentioned previously.
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12-11-2015, 01:49 PM | #7 | |
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Re: High-Tech advanced body armor: DR 35, 5 vs crushing
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Did the armor actually work as advertised? (And if so why was it really rejected?) Did it work as advertised when new but fail after some sort of exposure/wear? Did it never work quite that well? (And if so, why did it pass the tests it did?)
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12-11-2015, 01:53 PM | #8 |
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Re: High-Tech advanced body armor: DR 35, 5 vs crushing
If you want to be pragmatic about it, the company failed the surest test: They're out of business and nobody's picked up the patents to try it themselves. But I'll admit the data isn't clear.
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Re: High-Tech advanced body armor: DR 35, 5 vs crushing
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Should be remembered, though, that High Tech armors can have gaps and limited coverage that don't get the mention they would in a Low-Tech style armor treatment...
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12-11-2015, 02:25 PM | #10 | |
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Re: High-Tech advanced body armor: DR 35, 5 vs crushing
Keep in mind that High-Tech was written when the armour in question was making the rounds in the media and was surrounded by a lot of hype. There wasn't a lot of reliable data available to make a good judgement on how to model it in GURPS. The authors did the best with what they had.
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