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Old 03-23-2019, 03:07 PM   #31
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This is a great piece of work! Thank you, Rasputin, for putting in the data work and Bruno for adding the sortable feature. I've used it many times in the past few days.
Iíd like to second that. Thanks again.
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Old 03-26-2019, 08:26 AM   #32
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The CER rating? I have a large number of CERs already calculated, I'd love if more were crowdsourced. This is more DF than DFRPG, though.
Revisiting this Ö I have a bunch calculated now:
  • Most Pyramid monsters, though I may have a couple missing.
  • Those monsters in regular Dungeon Fantasy supplements that have only a few monsters.
  • All four of the Dungeon Fantasy Monsters series, though Iíve only done the dragon breath weapons that appeared in Tomb of the Dragon King.
  • Both Mirror of the Fire Demon and Tomb of the Dragon King. Iíll have Pagoda of Worlds done tonight.

Hall of Judgment will take a bit because itís a lot of monsters, but theyíre mostly straightforward. The ones that are exotic familiars in Allies are likewise, though not as many. Same story with Campaigns.

Last and worst will be Summoners. Iím trying to get the lenses (though ignoring leaders since you generally donít use those separately), and thereís loads here. The worst is the Standard Demon. The intent with it is to either use a single 50-point lens (no problem) or two 25-point lenses (there are eight, which means 56 possible combinations). I donít know what Iím going to do here. Itís pretty easy to figure how much each lens adds to CER, however.

An area for expansion is Icky Goo. Emilyís list (heh) doesnít bother with some of the pick-two-options versions, but some of those are not that many options when you get down to it.

Iíll want someone to proof these. Iím not sure how to handle damage from monsters that worry after an attack. Iíve been treating those as cyclical, which leads to really high values.
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Old 03-26-2019, 08:40 AM   #33
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For Dungeons on Automatic we have longer-term plans of having a semi-automatic "template" or "lens" system, which would hopefully handle combinatorial problems like the goos and demons - stat up the base, try to come up with CER modifiers for the options, and then present the user with "You face a Frawazzle Demon With Options Q and Z, CER 99 (GURPS Frawazzle, page XX)" (or whatever). At this time I would still be leaving it up to the GM to go get out GURPS Frawazzle and put the stats together, but I don't feel bad about that as I expect them to look up every monsters statistics.

"Leader type" is a lens presented with critters, like Foul Bats, and while you shouldn't see an encounter of Foul Bat Leaders*, they contribute to the CER of the encounter, so I'll be trying to deal with that at some point.

* I think right now the generator may actually populate a room with Foul Bat Leaders, but since it's still at the slightly cracked random-random stage I'm not sweating it. It's an encounter, whatevers.
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Old 03-26-2019, 09:18 AM   #34
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For Dungeons on Automatic we have longer-term plans of having a semi-automatic "template" or "lens" system, which would hopefully handle combinatorial problems like the goos and demons - stat up the base, try to come up with CER modifiers for the options, and then present the user with "You face a Frawazzle Demon With Options Q and Z, CER 99 (GURPS Frawazzle, page XX)" (or whatever). At this time I would still be leaving it up to the GM to go get out GURPS Frawazzle and put the stats together, but I don't feel bad about that as I expect them to look up every monsters statistics.
I did add several of the non-leader lenses, however. For example, I have Vermiform Archer Medusas and Vermiform Scout Medusas. (Why aren't these Lamias, anyways? I keep imagining Peter Gabriel singing, "Oh, Vermiform Archer Medusa, your flesh that remains I shall take as my food.") I did this as part of adding some of the variants that already had calculations, like the different kinds of as-Sharaks.

So I'll leave the Standard Demon as one entry, based on this. As I think Demons of Old work better as random foes, I'm not bothered.

For racial templates, I still have the CERs blank. (I added height SM and hex layout, however.) I keep wanting a generic mook template for when you find a group of deep ones or dwarves, akin to the ones that turned the goblin-kin into monsters in the boxed set.
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Old 03-26-2019, 12:11 PM   #35
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In my copious spare time, another thing I want to be able to do is to host custom monsters etc, so we can do things like that: "Here's the statblock for a standard knighty-adventurer NPC. This one in particular is a (rolls dice) elf, please adjust statistics as appropriate."

But just to be able to host/deliver custom monster statblocks in general is a thing I want to be able to do.
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