05-11-2018, 09:31 AM | #31 | |
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Re: How to give fatigue points more meaning?
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That's pretty straightforward about this being a broad imperative, not a suggestion for how things could be to make FP more relevant. And while that may not sound like a death march, plenty of people in the real world live that way. But in GURPS, six hours of missed sleep and 18 hours awake means losing 2 FP per day that you are not getting back for the duration. With a fun collection of extra penalties when, a few days in, that's knocked off half your FP. You don't start suffering major problems after a week. You're basically narcoleptic around day 5. At a week you'd be literally dying (slowly), except you've almost certainly broken from the sleep deprivation schedule unless it's being externally enforced.
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05-11-2018, 10:18 AM | #32 |
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05-11-2018, 01:18 PM | #33 | |
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05-11-2018, 02:47 PM | #34 |
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Re: How to give fatigue points more meaning?
I agree. When I served in the USN, we were lucky to get six hours a night during deployment. In fact, I do not think that I get more than six hours a night during the week since I left the USN, but I always make up for it on the weekends.
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05-11-2018, 04:04 PM | #35 |
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Re: How to give fatigue points more meaning?
Again, yes, it's entirely feasible for (many, if not all) real people to run on six hours or perhaps even less for extended periods.
GURPS characters outright can't do it unless they've got Advantages that completely obviate the ill effects.
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05-11-2018, 04:18 PM | #36 |
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Re: How to give fatigue points more meaning?
But it is a really cheap mundane advantage. For 8 CP, your character can get by on 4 hours of sleep a night, meaning that your character can get 25% more done with their life.
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05-11-2018, 04:27 PM | #37 | |
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05-11-2018, 04:28 PM | #38 | |
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That’s pretty much it. If you track water consumption, food consumption. equipment loads, armor, sleep, etc, etc they become very important.,. But you have to track all of that. |
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05-11-2018, 04:39 PM | #39 | |
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...and a large portion of the population functions while short a few FPs. Every single person who posted that they miss sleep during the week them sleep on on weekends is doing exactly that In the Army being a tank crewman isn’t the most physically demanding job normally... but with 25% security, one man per crew awake, IF you were scheduled for 8 hours you got 6... and for two guys that was broken up 4/2 or 2/4 with a 2 hour watch in between... sometimes you got 6 or 4... which translates to 4 or 3 or none if the enemy decided to get frisky. A week of that, on top of sleeping on or in a tank to begin with, and you were dragging. Longest I’ve gone without sleep is just over 72 hours, and we were dead. Falling asleep standing up, falling asleep driving to the assembly area... one whole crew was so zonked they drove into the corner of a mud brick house and just kept going. Didn’t even realize they did it. So, a few nights of reduced sleep with maybe one night of no sleep... and then having extended operations ... combat efficiency falls off fast Last edited by tanksoldier; 05-11-2018 at 04:53 PM. |
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There's no gap between 'you are going to burn out in less than two weeks' and 'there is zero downside to running on this little sleep indefinitely'. Quote:
EDIT: And if you don't get to make up sleep on the weekend you are flat out not going to make it to the next one.
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