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As for rations, well, I had better lose weight before my family finds out how tasty I am! (Luckily, I'm by far the smallest person in my gaming group, so they won't kill me and eat me.) If I assume you get 1 meal for every 4 pounds of weight (remember, DF uses 2 lbs. for a meal of rations), I get ST cubed, divided by 32. Still a little wonky to work out at the table. |
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06-21-2017, 01:10 AM | #22 |
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It's your game, so you can run things however you'd like, but do note that the 2 lb rations are likely meant to represent a meal of jerky, cheese, and bread (probably in the form of an entirely-too-hard and possibly-moldy biscuit). It leaves room for alternative foodstuffs, such as Dwarven Rations (cram?) which weigh 1 lb per meal, or Elven Rations (lembas?), which only weigh around 0.167 lb per meal, so having fresh meat be 1 lb per meal would hardly be breaking from DF rules.
Divide ST by 3, then cube it. That'll be faster and will give you close to the same result.
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06-21-2017, 02:28 AM | #23 | |
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Hmm, I think as a rough rule of thumb for food-on-the-hoof, maybe this would work: Prime cuts: 40% of weight. Edible, popular stuff (mostly large cuts of meat). Sells for good prices. A hunter will generally harvest all of this. Secondary cuts: 20% of weight. Edible but less popular stuff (tripe, heart, etc.). Sells for less; picky hunters and affluent diners may pass up this stuff. Marginal cuts: 10% of weight. Edible but typically rejected stuff (brains, blood, etc.). Little value to anyone other than the very hungry... That adds up to a neat 70%. The remaining 30% would be bones (sans marrow), hooves, hide, etc.; generally worthless as food, outside of very extreme conditions. Even then, serious Cooking rolls may be needed to approach edibility and eke out meager nutrition... (Note: Those example parts in parentheses may vary a lot with the eater. Some races, societies, or individual gourmets will love their kidney pie, fried brains, and blood sausage...)
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Blood sausages are a pretty universal cuisine element, but blood gets used further: it's frequently used to thicken soups, and when you get into Asia you find "blood cake" which isn't much like cake, you put in dishes instead of meats. Finland makes rather more literal blood cakes, a sort of brownie except with blood instead of chocolate. I can see blood being put into the secondary category; it's only typically rejected in English-speaking North America. Many of the things in the secondary and marginal cuts categories are going to be highly variable between cultures. And of course cultures that are still close historically to food deprivation (or are still dealing with it) are going to be rather less picky.
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Quite so. I understand "Rocky Mountain Oysters" are actually fairly high quality as foodstuffs, but many Americans - myself included - can't really get over the fact that they're, you know, cow testicles, and are thus not willing to try them.
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During the butchering processes as much blood as possible must be drained from the meat and after the meat is salted to leach even more blood from it. I have to add that in a survival situation, you are allowed as a religious Jew to do/eat whatever is available to survive. So if you are lost in the woods or survive a plane crash & can hunt, if you catch an animal even if it's not a kosher animal, you can eat it & you don't have to worry about the blood ect... Last edited by Tinman; 06-21-2017 at 10:16 AM. |
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06-21-2017, 10:23 AM | #27 | |
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06-21-2017, 10:28 AM | #28 | |
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I know that Kosher slaughtered food can be Halal, but Halal slaughtered food is not Kosher. |
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06-21-2017, 11:45 AM | #29 | |
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[1] You're not allowed to mix dairy products and meat - an extension from the prohibition against cooking a calf in its mother's milk. Under the more strict guidelines you can't even risk proximity contamination by eating two contrasting meals with the same utensils; thus you'll find households keeping kosher have two sets of cutlery - typically one with white handles and one with blue handles. You also need two sets of cooking vessels and so forth. There's an accepted amount of heat and washing to "sterilize" implements from this "contamination" but it's considered prudent to just avoid the possibility. This is why cheese is such a big problem - traditionally cheese needs rennet, an enzyme extracted from a calfs stomach. Today there's either vegetable sources (thistles!) or industrially produced sources (not 100% sure if microbe produced rennet enzymes are considered meat or not), but many cheese manufacturers just use whatever is cheapest when they go to restock, so they can't guarentee one or the other.
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Hardly a 100% subset only 2 data points. Like saying the Union Jack & The US flag look alike 'Cause they share the same colors, One's red, white & blue and is all stripes. The other's red white & blue and has stars & stripes, One is a 100% subset of the other? I grew up an Orthodox Jew, so I know the laws of Kashrut. My understanding of Halal slaughter is: 1) Beast's throat must be cut (no laws on how) & 2) Allahu Akbar must be said as it's done. That's about all it takes. Sharing, a throat must be cut (but the methodology is not the same) and, One animal forbidden by Islam in common is not "a lot" of similarity. Quote:
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