03-28-2019, 08:37 PM | #31 |
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Re: Staff Spell Item Prerequisites
Depends on how much transformation you're willing to allow after the material is no longer living. Fossilized stone and petrified wood was "once living" in some sense -- or if you want to get really extreme, carbon from an ancient race in another star system that's been fused into heavier elements all the way up to iron in a series of supernovas and finally got forged into your steel sword was "once living". But that may well not be true for magical correspondences, no matter how strictly "logical" it might be. Magic isn't physics or chemistry, and may well not be too impressed with convolutions of those modern definitions. "Once living" is a technical term only in the context of the magic system in the setting.
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03-28-2019, 10:52 PM | #32 | |
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And I doubt it means 'organic' in the sense that petrochems are 'organic'. |
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03-28-2019, 11:40 PM | #33 | |
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In any case, the proper way to handle this is cast flesh to stone on someone, cast stone to metal on the petrified form, and forge the result into a sword. |
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03-29-2019, 05:10 AM | #34 | ||
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"Any rod-shaped piece of organic material (wood, bone, ivory, etc.) up to 6 feet long. May be decorated with other materials, like gems and precious metals." Quote:
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03-29-2019, 09:46 AM | #35 | |
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Honestly the approach I'd take with the modern iteration of Magic is to simply go with a martial Style that has it's own idiosyncratic wizard sword spell. |
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03-29-2019, 10:05 AM | #36 | |
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Would the wizard be able to use the inorganic mechanical arm for touch spells or to extend his reach? A proper answer to that would very likely be "It depends". |
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03-29-2019, 10:27 AM | #37 |
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If it doesn't, I might buy Magic Resistance modified as DR is for partial coverage. Even just 1 level will keep the wizard from casting through it, and it has the, not implausible, effect of making it better resist Wither Limb and the like. Alternatively, treat not being susceptible to spells like wither limb and not being able to cast through it as special effects which cancel each other out.
An additional concern arises here when using flexible rituals (TH37): if you cannot cast with the arm, you cannot use it for gestures and are thus at a permanent -2 to cast (Give the arm Temporary Disadvantage, Magery -2, -20%?).
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03-29-2019, 10:36 AM | #38 |
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So basically, you're saying 'organic' doesn't actually mean 'organic'. All we can derive from the examples in Magic is that they're valid TL 3 choices.
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03-29-2019, 10:57 AM | #39 | |
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"Organic" as used in GURPS Magic was meant to fit the laymen's definition: of, relating to, or derived from living organisms. It would never have been meant to fit the scientific definition: of, relating to, or containing carbon compounds.
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03-29-2019, 11:01 AM | #40 |
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"Organic" has several meanings (as I'm sure you know). "Containing carbon compounds" is a later bit of jargon evolved from the older "related to living things" meaning. For magical purposes, we can't even easily ignore the "integral element of a whole" meaning, especially since that meaning also reaches over to touch the "living" senses. (Field created by all living things, surrounds us, penetrates us, binds the galaxy together -- you know the quote.)
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