Rcl stat for ROF 1 weapons, what's the point? - Page 2

ULFGARD · 05-09-2012, 08:24 AM

That still leaves truly single shot weapons. And yes, adding another barrel should affect both Bulk and Rcl.

vicky_molokh · 05-09-2012, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ULFGARD

That still leaves truly single shot weapons. And yes, adding another barrel should affect both Bulk and Rcl.

Imbuements work with those.

Polydamas · 05-09-2012, 06:50 PM

Look at the reverse: would it have been smart for SJ Games to not bother publishing a guns stat it could easily generate, on the assumption that no author would ever invent a use for it? They needed that column in the tables for weapons which can shoot more than once a second, and needed to proofread even rows that said "-", so leaving it out would have been pointless.

A quick and dirty way to generate a multi-barrelled version of a gun is to add +1 RoF, +1 Shots, and a percentage to cost and weight. LT often adjusts Rcl and Bulk for multi-barrelled weapons; HT seems much more conservative. I am surprised that they change Bulk, since thickness is the smallest dimension of most guns, but I trust their firearms experts. Edit: And please note the "quick and dirty": I'm talking about a formula that can be applied in a minute, not something like the firearms design rules in the old Vehicles, or Doug's private firearms model.

Flyndaran · 05-09-2012, 08:50 PM

Remember that authors have stated bulk is not really size or bulkiness, but difficulty of use while making a move and attack. They just happen to be similar features.

It was the simple statement that other rules use Rcl for ROF 1 weapons in Basic. If it instead wrote that future books may have such rules, I wouldn't have been so confused.

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05-09-2012, 06:50 PM	#13
Polydamas Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Central Europe	Re: Rcl stat for ROF 1 weapons, what's the point? Look at the reverse: would it have been smart for SJ Games to not bother publishing a guns stat it could easily generate, on the assumption that no author would ever invent a use for it? They needed that column in the tables for weapons which can shoot more than once a second, and needed to proofread even rows that said "-", so leaving it out would have been pointless. A quick and dirty way to generate a multi-barrelled version of a gun is to add +1 RoF, +1 Shots, and a percentage to cost and weight. LT often adjusts Rcl and Bulk for multi-barrelled weapons; HT seems much more conservative. I am surprised that they change Bulk, since thickness is the smallest dimension of most guns, but I trust their firearms experts. Edit: And please note the "quick and dirty": I'm talking about a formula that can be applied in a minute, not something like the firearms design rules in the old Vehicles, or Doug's private firearms model. __________________ "It is easier to banish a habit of thought than a piece of knowledge." H. Beam Piper This forum got less aggravating when I started using the ignore feature Last edited by Polydamas; 05-09-2012 at 07:26 PM.

05-09-2012, 08:50 PM	#14
Flyndaran Untagged Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Forest Grove, Beaverton, Oregon	Re: Rcl stat for ROF 1 weapons, what's the point? Remember that authors have stated bulk is not really size or bulkiness, but difficulty of use while making a move and attack. They just happen to be similar features. It was the simple statement that other rules use Rcl for ROF 1 weapons in Basic. If it instead wrote that future books may have such rules, I wouldn't have been so confused. __________________ Beware, poor communication skills. No offense intended. If offended, it just means that I failed my writing skill check.