Rcl stat for ROF 1 weapons, what's the point?

Flyndaran · 05-08-2012, 10:05 PM

One of the books has it listed as needed for some rules. But I can't find those rules anywhere.
Please help.

roguebfl · 05-08-2012, 10:20 PM

The point is they're ranged attack, and rcl is one of the stats of a ranged attack.

There are also sometimes special circumstances that will increase RoF

Ulzgoroth · 05-08-2012, 10:22 PM

I think some of them might be able to exceed ROF 1 with the right techniques... But some of them definitely can't. I don't think rcl actually has any mechanics whatsoever for strictly RoF 1 weapons. Maybe it matters whether it's rcl 1 or >1?

What book has it listed as needed for some rules?

Flyndaran · 05-08-2012, 10:34 PM

Basic p.271
(Firearms with ROF 1 still list Rcl, for use with certain rules.)

Polydamas · 05-08-2012, 10:54 PM

The one that comes to mind is multi-barreled variants of firearms. Its much easier to add a percentage to weight and tweak Shots than to generate Rcl from scratch! The ways to fire a single-action RoF 1 firearm at RoF greater than one also apply.

Anthony · 05-08-2012, 10:56 PM

Flinch rules I think apply the rcl of the weapon as a penalty, regardless of RoF.

sir_pudding · 05-09-2012, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

Flinch rules I think apply the rcl of the weapon as a penalty, regardless of RoF.

Is there a "Flinch" rule in 4e?

Ulzgoroth · 05-08-2012, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polydamas

The one that comes to mind is multi-barreled variants of firearms. Its much easier to add a percentage to weight and tweak Shots than to generate Rcl from scratch! The ways to fire a single-action RoF 1 firearm at RoF greater than one also apply.

A multibarrel gun might not have the same recoil as a single-barrel version, though. If you add enough weight in the process, rcl may go down.

munin · 05-08-2012, 10:55 PM

Fanning and Thumbing (GURPS High-Tech, p. 83; GURPS Gun-Fu, p. 11; and GURPS Tactical Shooting, p. 14) both can increase the RoF of a weapon (primarily a RoF 1 revolver). On the supernatural side, there's the Multi-Shot imbuement (which can even improve ranged weapons without a listed Rcl stat).

Flyndaran · 05-09-2012, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by munin

Fanning and Thumbing (GURPS High-Tech, p. 83; GURPS Gun-Fu, p. 11; and GURPS Tactical Shooting, p. 14) both can increase the RoF of a weapon (primarily a RoF 1 revolver). On the supernatural side, there's the Multi-Shot imbuement (which can even improve ranged weapons without a listed Rcl stat).

Do'h. I was literally only a couple of pages from that section in High Tech. They even used the gun that started me on the hunt; the Peacemaker.
I guess I posted too soon.
Thanks for the reference.

05-08-2012, 10:05 PM	#1
Flyndaran Untagged Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Forest Grove, Beaverton, Oregon	Rcl stat for ROF 1 weapons, what's the point? One of the books has it listed as needed for some rules. But I can't find those rules anywhere. Please help. __________________ Beware, poor communication skills. No offense intended. If offended, it just means that I failed my writing skill check.

05-08-2012, 10:20 PM	#2
roguebfl Dog of Lysdexics Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Melbourne FL, Formerly Wellington NZ	Re: Rcl stat for ROF 1 weapons, what's the point? The point is they're ranged attack, and rcl is one of the stats of a ranged attack. There are also sometimes special circumstances that will increase RoF __________________ Rogue the Bronze Firelizard Gerald Grenier, Jr. Hail Eris! Rogue's Weyr

05-08-2012, 10:22 PM	#3
Ulzgoroth Join Date: Jul 2008	Re: Rcl stat for ROF 1 weapons, what's the point? I think some of them might be able to exceed ROF 1 with the right techniques... But some of them definitely can't. I don't think rcl actually has any mechanics whatsoever for strictly RoF 1 weapons. Maybe it matters whether it's rcl 1 or >1? What book has it listed as needed for some rules? __________________ I don't know any 3e, so there is no chance that I am talking about 3e rules by accident.

05-08-2012, 10:34 PM	#4
Flyndaran Untagged Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Forest Grove, Beaverton, Oregon	Re: Rcl stat for ROF 1 weapons, what's the point? Basic p.271 (Firearms with ROF 1 still list Rcl, for use with certain rules.) __________________ Beware, poor communication skills. No offense intended. If offended, it just means that I failed my writing skill check.

05-08-2012, 10:54 PM	#5
Polydamas Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Central Europe	Re: Rcl stat for ROF 1 weapons, what's the point? The one that comes to mind is multi-barreled variants of firearms. Its much easier to add a percentage to weight and tweak Shots than to generate Rcl from scratch! The ways to fire a single-action RoF 1 firearm at RoF greater than one also apply. __________________ "It is easier to banish a habit of thought than a piece of knowledge." H. Beam Piper This forum got less aggravating when I started using the ignore feature

05-08-2012, 10:56 PM	#6
Anthony Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Berkeley, CA	Re: Rcl stat for ROF 1 weapons, what's the point? Flinch rules I think apply the rcl of the weapon as a penalty, regardless of RoF.

05-08-2012, 10:55 PM	#9
munin Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vermont, USA	Re: Rcl stat for ROF 1 weapons, what's the point? Fanning and Thumbing (GURPS High-Tech, p. 83; GURPS Gun-Fu, p. 11; and GURPS Tactical Shooting, p. 14) both can increase the RoF of a weapon (primarily a RoF 1 revolver). On the supernatural side, there's the Multi-Shot imbuement (which can even improve ranged weapons without a listed Rcl stat). Last edited by munin; 05-08-2012 at 10:59 PM.