Pole Dancing?

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by Qoltar

Darn, Kromm already answered this one., IF I was running this in my campaign I'd tell the player to take both Dancing and Erotic Arts. If the activity came up in an adventure scene I'd ask her if she was flirting with someone or showing off her dancing more - thats what tells me what she rolls against.
IF she tells me she is attempting both, I do an average of the skill numbers and ask her to roll against that number.


- Ed Charlton

Flirting would be Sex Appeal. Erotic Art is not that.

[Qoltar]

Originally Posted by Ulzgoroth

Flirting would be Sex Appeal. Erotic Art is not that.

That all depends on what the character is hoping to accomplish.


- Ed

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by Qoltar

That all depends on what the character is hoping to accomplish.


- Ed

Um. I'm not managing to figure how 'flirting' could be considered an element of the skill described here.

[Kromm]

Erotic Art isn't flirting . . . it's way past that stage, into shagging, flogging, or other pairs or team sports. That's why it's based on DX and has vague, PG wording. You could certainly use pole dancing as a complement to it, but that would be because you're using the pole as an, er, prop – much as you might use a pillow, a trapeze, or 500 gallons of Jello.

Flirting is always Sex Appeal. You could use pole dancing as a complement to that, too, of course. No contact would be required, though.

[Stone Dog]

Originally Posted by blacksmith

Why not something like acrobatics art?

That is what the good stuff basically is. Go and search youtube for pole dancing championships. The stuff is hot, pretty much by accident and it is primarily gymnastic stunts in sexy clothes.

It is any combination of dancing, acrobatics and sex appeal depending on what bit you are focusing your act on.

Originally Posted by Donbot

Whoa. Whoa. Show some decorum there, Clamps. This ain't no strip show. This is a beguiling display of the pornographic arts.

[DouglasCole]

Originally Posted by Stone Dog

That is what the good stuff basically is. Go and search youtube for pole dancing championships. The stuff is hot, pretty much by accident and it is primarily gymnastic stunts in sexy clothes.

It is any combination of dancing, acrobatics and sex appeal depending on what bit you are focusing your act on.

Looks like the forums ate my post, but I was coming down on the same side. This is basically Acrobatics or a specialty of Dancing. If you're trying to be sexy doing it, limit Acrobatics/Dancing roll to the lower of Acro/Dance and Sex Appeal. Analogy is with Horse Archery. Either the vehicle (the horse or pole) or the primary purpose (Bow or Sex Appeal) can be rate-limiting here.

[Mailanka]

Originally Posted by Stone Dog

That is what the good stuff basically is. Go and search youtube for pole dancing championships. The stuff is hot, pretty much by accident and it is primarily gymnastic stunts in sexy clothes.

It is any combination of dancing, acrobatics and sex appeal depending on what bit you are focusing your act on.

Yeah, but most dancing involves some level of physical strength, agility and flexibility. Swing, for example, and ballet. "Dancing" covers alot more than the Minuet.

[blacksmith]

Originally Posted by Mailanka

Yeah, but most dancing involves some level of physical strength, agility and flexibility. Swing, for example, and ballet. "Dancing" covers alot more than the Minuet.

So then all routines in gymnastics in the Olympics should be use the dancing skill?

Now maybe it should be the lower of acrobatics and dancing or acrobatics and sex appeal or all three. And probably most people who have it have a specialized pole dancing acrobatics skills.

[Mailanka]

Originally Posted by blacksmith

So then all routines in gymnastics in the Olympics should be use the dancing skill?

Of course not. That's acrobatics. And that's beside the point. Pointing to a dance that involves vigorous physical movement does not necessarily mean it involves full acrobatics.

[Kromm]

Acrobatics has little in common with pole dancing, other than some degree of athleticism . . . which could also be said of Hiking, Karate, Running, Skiing, and Wrestling. As defined in GURPS, Acrobatics is the skill of "combat athletics": breaking falls, dodging blows, evading enemies, rapidly mounting horses, standing up quickly after a fall, swinging from chandeliers, tumbling to become a harder target, etc. A lot of gymnastics would be Dancing – this is particularly true of rhythmic gymnastics. Similarly, dancing would have to all but abandon aesthetics for hang time before it would move from Dancing to Acrobatics. The Dancing skill covers everything from vaulting over bulls to breakdancing to fancy swing with aerial partner tosses; that's why each kind is at -5 for those who don't know it. For the most part, shuffling around as at a wedding or a rock concert isn't capital-D Dancing, even if it's small-d dancing – that's just part of Carousing (which, like Hiking, Running, and Skiing, is HT-based, not DX-based).