02-15-2018, 10:32 PM | #1171 | |
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02-16-2018, 05:39 AM | #1172 | |
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02-16-2018, 06:19 AM | #1173 | |
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You are not buying something. You are supporting something.Yes, you get some stuff for your support. However, even in the not-so-fine print, the transaction is really, "I am pledging $X to support project P, and I will receive Q as a result," rather than, "I am paying $X for Q." That isn't free rein to include weird fees, but I cannot find any evidence of weird fees in this case.
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02-16-2018, 08:33 AM | #1174 | |
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When I lived in Germany even Amazon.de had extra fees if the item was coming from outside of the EU. And there rarely seemed to be consistency. I even had a case where it was cheaper to order a game book through Amazon.com (U.S. Amazon) than getting from the German Amazon. Benjamin |
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02-16-2018, 02:03 PM | #1175 | |
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I am sorry that DF was not a financial success, but glad the SJ was able to release the report so early in the new year!
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That said, some people use Kickstarter as more a microcredit system to pay fixed costs in advance.
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02-17-2018, 10:37 AM | #1176 | |
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It sounds like nobody disagrees that DFPRG is an interesting and worthwhile game from the point of view of the thing which was created. Is there any way to separate RPG distribution from board game distribution? Everything I read about the market being periodical-like and having a short memory focuses on boardgames. I realize that SJ Games *is* a board and card game company, and that for more than a decade RPGs have been only a small sideline. Still the way people play RPGs is extremely different from how they play board games, and the nature of the games themselves lends far more to a slow-burn, takes-time-to-learn and get into play style than board games. With board games, the expectation is that you can open up a game, sit down, read the rules, play it, and have a fun evening, with zero prep ahead of time. RPGs are almost never like that. So, RPGs being driven by the marketing needs of board games means that RPGs are going to get swept under the tide. |
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02-17-2018, 12:43 PM | #1177 |
President and EIC
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That is a very interesting question.
I think the answer is yes and no. Yes, RPGs have access to PDF distribution, which boardgames mostly don't. So those are already decoupled. No, RPGs are so traditionally a part of the stock in trade of the adventure game retailer and distributor that the physical products are not going to decouple. |
02-17-2018, 12:45 PM | #1178 | |
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02-17-2018, 08:51 PM | #1179 |
GURPS Line Editor
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Of course, art direction is the thing. When you're on the clock, providing art direction and follow-up corrections adds to production costs in a way that it doesn't when it's a labor of love. I invoiced a lot of hours on that . . . In fact, I spent more paid hours reviewing art for the Dungeon Fantasy Roleplaying Game than I've billed to all art approval ever for all of GURPS in 23 years.
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02-17-2018, 09:06 PM | #1180 |
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And it looks great.
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