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Re: Unarmed vs. Knife
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12-14-2014, 12:10 PM | #102 | |||
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Re: Unarmed vs. Knife
Don't think so, I think you can base it off any skill that can be attack, (and se alternative skills for acrobatic feints etc). But not actual attacks that are their own manoeuvres.
The listing for Feint's movement is 1 step, your talking about doing a "CA Feint" with 2 steps because you want the extra step, where's the trade off for that? I might allow it if you also took the disadvantages of the CA with 2nd step though as the trade off. (Which makes sense your trying to make it look like a CA, so you go to the extra effort and you defence will suffer). Quote:
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Yep, I think that would fine Well no more so that TA's but I would probably just keep an out out for people spamming it. The reality is most combats between individuals don't go on long enough for it to really kick it that often, and TBH I already have other ways to punish fighters who stick to the same things over and over again. |
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12-14-2014, 12:15 PM | #103 |
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Re: Unarmed vs. Knife
You're actually going to call me on whether something meets the literal definition, precisely applied in a totally legalistic and game mechanical fashion, after the pages and pages of hairsplitting that you and Tom's dad are doing?
The key is that the wait condition is triggered by the closing of the range. That does not necessarily mean that the step and movement is complete, and I would certainly allow The defender to react to your motion, since all of this attack and defense is not the turn by turn regimented, precisely sequenced, defined it down to the last minutia event that you seem to portray it as. All of this happens at the same time, which means that in the spirit of the rules a rotation to match the attempted run around attack is the right game feel. Everything else, to me, is a bunch of overly legalistic noise.
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12-14-2014, 12:30 PM | #105 | ||
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We need to check the interchangeability of attacks into feints, I'm pretty sure there's a line on it somewhere. Yep, "The GM should be generous about substituting feints for attacks, too. All-Out Attack (Feint) is just an All-Out Attack (Double) that trades the first attack for a feint", MA97. Quote:
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12-14-2014, 12:36 PM | #106 | ||||
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either way this one doesn't strike me as any more fiddly than having the option to attack with more than one skill/tech. However there is no way I'd ever let people feint up to half move, life would just be one long successions of feints 5 yards apart with no danger of being attacked until someone gets a really good roll, and them bam AoA. Quote:
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12-14-2014, 12:40 PM | #107 | |
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That's not the same as splitting movement and the rotation of a step. |
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12-14-2014, 12:40 PM | #108 | |
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12-14-2014, 12:46 PM | #109 | |
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However it does go on to given AoA(Det) and AoA(L) as feints, but you'll get the hit of no defence so it balances. What I think is telling is that this is mentioned the expansion on AoA's not Feints. Ah sorry I meant a feint that was based off a defensive attack (was thinking about attack types I forgot that there's already such a thing a defensive feint). Last edited by Tomsdad; 12-14-2014 at 11:41 PM. |
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12-14-2014, 12:47 PM | #110 |
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Re: Unarmed vs. Knife
Why not? Tactical Combat Movement says that chancing facing is the same thing as 1 yard step. this is on top of the free change you get when you move hexes. [B386]
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