Jobs for Ghost vs SAIs

[vicky_molokh]

Originally Posted by TGLS

So how long before someone "solves" the problem of ghost vs. SAI by creating bioroids for the sole purpose of brainpeeling them?

It's been a while since I looked into the numbers, but IIRC bioroids win the cost-effectiveness against SAIs when both a mind and a shell are of use, but not when the body becomes a 'waste product'. (Making necroshells may mitigate the losses but not eliminate them.) (Also no, growing brain-only bioroids is impractical, based on some statements on why bioroids are so similar to organism they're based on design-wise in the first place.)

Twenty years down the line, bioroids will probably just become obsolete as hardware and AIs are expected to advance faster. I'm actually expecting someone to invent Ghostborn - minds grown entirely digitally from one digital zygote. Which would be functionally like Ghosts for all purposes, except never having lived as biosapients.

[TGLS]

Originally Posted by vicky_molokh

It's been a while since I looked into the numbers, but IIRC bioroids win the cost-effectiveness against SAIs when both a mind and a shell are of use, but not when the body becomes a 'waste product'. (Making necroshells may mitigate the losses but not eliminate them.) (Also no, growing brain-only bioroids is impractical, based on some statements on why bioroids are so similar to organism they're based on design-wise in the first place.)

Well my math and assumptions:
-> A Vanilla Bioroid (i.e. nothing on the template but Bioroid Body), goes for G$25,000. This isn't anywhere in the books, but the much more intelligent Leonardo bioroid (BB24-25) has the same price.
-> Brainpeeling costs G$50,000, and produces a C7 program (TS127)
-> SAIs: $50k-IQ9-C7, $100k-IQ10-C8, $200k-IQ11-C9, $400k-IQ12-C10 (TS127)
-> Computers: I'm being lazy here (and perhaps generous) by assuming a savings of G$40,000 for a C7 Computer as opposed to a more powerful variant (actual savings could be upwards of $100k, even for C7 vs. C8) (TS141)

Obviously the bioroid ghosts (BGs) lose to SAI-7s, as they use the same computers and brainpeeling costs are equal to the prices of SAI-7s. BGs vs. SAI-8s have cost savings of at least G$65,000. High IQ bioroids, like the Leonardo, have higher IQs than even SAI-10s and have cost savings in the hundreds of thousands, or even millions once you bring in computer costs.