02-13-2017, 12:14 PM | #1 |
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All the howitzers
I guess this is probably a little late, all things considered, but why in the name of Descartes' belly lint are there so many howitzers in the ODE+ counter mix?
I mean, I've got more PE HWZs than I do PE HTs, and it looks like in general you got 4 HWZ for 6 HTs. (And that's not counting the MHWZs - of which I appear to be very well supplied as well). Is spending an overwhelming amount of AU on howitzers a common thing? I've read the 4-HWZ defense article (and the 0-HWZ defense article, for that matter), of course, but still... |
02-13-2017, 01:30 PM | #2 | |
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Re: All the howitzers
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02-13-2017, 01:50 PM | #3 |
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Re: All the howitzers
Everyone wants to be able to do the "four howitzer defense". I always assumed that's why you always get a minimum of 4.
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02-13-2017, 02:04 PM | #4 |
Join Date: May 2012
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Re: All the howitzers
It's not the minimum 4 on the backer sheets I was referring to (though that does contribute to the high overall number of tubes in my ODE storage); but the 8 NAC, 12 PE, 8 Black Rose, and 6 "Belgian" HWZ counters in the ODE basic load. That's a lotta HWZ.
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02-13-2017, 02:19 PM | #5 |
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Re: All the howitzers
There are a lot of "huh?" moments in the force selection available in ODE. You are asking about all the HWZ, but think about all the Ogres. Sure, the game is called Ogre, but what kind of insanity would have to happen to ever use that many Ogres at one time?
I would have been happy to see a lot more conventional units, instead of the Ogre army I'll never use. Full Disclosure: My bread-and-butter is G.E.V.; I have a well-documented bias toward conventional forces. :-)
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02-13-2017, 03:20 PM | #6 |
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Re: All the howitzers
I was thinking the same thing the other day. Trains too, who needs this many trains? There's one bazillion howitzers, a bazillion Ogres, a quarter of a million trains, but when I was setting up to play the Recon in Force scenario with my son, I ran out of Combine GEVs. I'm actually thinking about buying Ogre Reinforcements just to add more counters to the mix.
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02-13-2017, 03:43 PM | #7 |
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Re: All the howitzers
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02-13-2017, 04:11 PM | #8 | ||||
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Re: All the howitzers
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You had to have a train on one sheet, right? Well, put four sheets in the set and now you're getting a lot of trains. Historically PE had more HWTZ available to them in counter mixes than NAC; one additional is added to the sheet . . . multiply by four sheets, and BAM! Lots of howitzers. Plus additional faction sheets are based off of prior designs. My Barbarians set didn't need any trains from my perspective. But I was using "sheet B" which carries a train on it. Thus, trains are in my set. (I did make the train on the Sons of Old Nassau sheet a Black Rose train for just this reason. I saw no need for the SoON to have a train! Not that Black Rose really needed it either . . . ). Quote:
Plus, as you've stated yourself GP, you are an avowed lover of G.E.V. and the conventional units. There is definitely an observer bias! <grin> Quote:
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02-13-2017, 04:22 PM | #9 |
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Re: All the howitzers
I have 32 Mk.IIIs and quite a lot of Mk.Vs (before the 6e came in). While I wish some of the grey Mk.IIIs were Mk.IIs, and that there was another Dopp or two instead of the excess of Mk.Vs, I recognize that, other than an excess of greys, there aren't that many ogres per faction.
And I also realize the dies limited the unit mix for the sponsor sheets, which is why I didn't mention I have 12 papal HWZ... |
02-13-2017, 04:38 PM | #10 |
Join Date: May 2012
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Re: All the howitzers
May I request that extra 6e counter sheets be made available, and that an "inverted" (NAC conventional, PE Ogre) sheet be considered? Alas, since the NAC has physically different counters for the HWZ, is not simply a matter of printing in different colors and running the sheets through the same dies.
ETA: I should have looked before posting http://www.warehouse23.com/products/...sheets-1-and-2. In that case, please strike my first sentence, and merely consider the second :) Last edited by ianargent; 02-13-2017 at 07:21 PM. Reason: I am an idiot |
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