10-20-2018, 09:48 PM | #1 |
Join Date: Jul 2015
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Does knockdown and stunning go hand in hand?
B420 isn't clear. It just throws the two together. You're knocked prone and stunned.
Are they separate effects? If so, how does each one function individually? |
10-21-2018, 01:10 AM | #2 |
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Re: Does knockdown and stunning go hand in hand?
Knockdown only happens in the case of a Major Wound to the head or vitals, it will also cause a Stun.
These always happen together if caused by the above effect. However as Stun can occur on it's own (from Critical Hits and other things) it get's it's own separate description. You can be knocked prone from Slams, Trips, and other such things (like failing a DX roll on slippery ice) without suffering a Knockdown. No, I don't know why they are lumped together like that in one spot, when it's really just Stun and Knocked Prone. |
10-21-2018, 04:07 PM | #3 |
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: France
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Re: Does knockdown and stunning go hand in hand?
Usually, when a blow inflicts a shock important enough to make you fall down, you are also stunned, at least for one second (combat turns are very short in GURPS). Thay is why, in my humble opinion, they are linked in the paragraph "knock down and stunning" which actually describe that kind of situation.
But, as described by Evileeyore, there are many other situations when you can fall down without being stunned or being stunned without falling down. They are just described elsewhere in the rules. |
10-22-2018, 08:56 AM | #4 |
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10-22-2018, 09:08 AM | #5 |
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Location: Canada
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Re: Does knockdown and stunning go hand in hand?
You can knocked down by a slam attack or a trip - neither of these cause stunning. Falling down from bad footing also doesn't cause stunning. You can be knocked down by being knocked back more than a yard, even if you took no actual damage and therefore no injury and no major wound.
You can be physically stunned without falling down. You can also be mentally stunned without falling down. "Knockdown and stunning" is a combined set of effects that go together for crippling injuries, major wounds to all locations, and minor wounds to some locations (e.g. brain). In this context you get both, which is why they're referred to together in this context.
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10-22-2018, 09:12 AM | #6 | ||
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Re: Does knockdown and stunning go hand in hand?
Depends on the edition.
http://www.sjgames.com/gurps/lite/3e/gurpslite.pdf page 27/32 Quote:
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You can be stunned without being knocked down by things like Affliction. You can be knocked down without being stunned by things like failing to defend against a Judo Throw (you end up lying down) but passing the HT check it forces, or from Slams. Either case happens in the full edition of GURPS though, you'll have to check the Basic Set, not situations which come up in Lite. |
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