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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: West Virginia
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What it says on the tin, this is meant to be about villains in fiction, TV, film, Comics, and other media and/or history, worth modeling a villain or antagonist on. Although I'll have to wait a day or two before posting useful links, I ask those posting to add links to descriptions of the villain in question and evidence of why they are copy worthy or can be copied. Most twist villains are murder to copy, especially the murderers;-)
I'll go first. May I offer Servalan, the big bad from Blake's 7. She turns convention upside down and sideways. She's as calm and focused a villain as you'll find. Her vast supply of feminine charm she uses as a potent weapon. Although she hired thugs to do her dirty work, she mainly attacks through social manuvers and careful planning. Anyone running an NPC villain based on Servalan would do well to reread Stoddard's GURPS: Social Engineering, it will pay off. By the way, if rewatching Blake's 7 to study Servalan, also look at Roj Blake. He devolves into a fairly interesting villain himself. Now, who do you nominate? The promised links: First to Servalan and then to Blakes7. And this music video explains it so well Servalan "Killer Queen"!
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: West Virginia
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You can post any villains you think are worthy of being used as models for NPC antagonists. I want you guys to get in on the act.
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Helmuth, from E.E. Smith's Galactic Patrol. Thoroughly bad, but in an efficient, effective, intelligent way. He's the sort of man who, if he'd grown up in a sane society, would be a hero. He's actually a more dangerous opponent than many of the later, higher ranking Boskonians Kimball Kinnison would defeat, it makes me wonder if the Arisians didn't arrange for Helmuth to go down early because he was too dangerous to be allowed to gain more power.
John Marcone, from The Dresden Files. A mobster, but one with a few redeeming features (not many, he's definitely still a bad guy), but like Helmuth, intelligent, capable, and efficient. Totally unsentimental, doesn't waste time monologuing or with meaningless chit-chat, won't hesitate to shoot you in cold blood if you give him backtalk, but not sadistic about it. Actually, he and Helmuth have some traits in common. Baron Vladimir Harkonnen. Far more personally corrupt and perverse than either of the previous two, but still dangerously intelligent and effective. His effectiveness is somewhat reduced by his personal corruption, though. Arguably Feanor, from Tolkien's stories. He's a classic case of 'madness makes the villain', but also a good exemplar of just that sort of villainy, driven by passion out of control of conscience and humility. Which is a tendency. The most effective villains tend to be the ones who still have some good in them. As corruption proceeds, evil tends to be self-defeating because the very behaviors it produces work against itself.
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
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Khan Noonien Singh is one of my favorite villains. He is very intelligent, but lets his pride and his need to prove himself better than his enemies get the better of him constantly. The scene in Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan where Kirk goads him into giving up his tactical advantages by saying "Khan, I laugh at the superior intellect" is... so good. I'll take him over Darth Vader any day.
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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Hans Gruber, Die Hard -- a villain with wits and a touch of class
Mayor Wilkins -- Buffy. A man who keeps his promises. Clean, neat, polite, and utterly ruthless Problem with several of the witty villians is keeping them alive long enough for the PCs to appreciate them -- PCs have a habit of shooting first and riffling the body. Also hard for the PCs go appreciate hands-off masterminds unless you have, in effect, cut scenes. |
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: On the road again...
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Bester from B5. A classic "I am the law" villain.
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"Life ... is an Oreo cookie." - J'onn J'onzz, 1991 "But mom, I don't wanna go back in the dungeon!" The GURPS Marvel Universe Reboot Project A-G, N-Z, and S-Z, and its not-a-wiki-really web adaptation. Ranoc, a Muskets-and-Magery Renaissance Fantasy Setting |
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Aycharach from Dominic Flandry. He really had a cause but was so cruel as to render it meaningless. Not just in the exigencies of war. On one occasion he psionically enslaved an ethnicity for reasons that had nothing to do with that. Despite that he had a beautiful physical appearance and more than a little charm. Dukat from DS9: He had alongside his cunning a weird mixture of charm and "All-about-me" attitude.
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: West Virginia
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Dukat was compelling because he was so dead certain he was the hero of the tale making only necessary choices. His self-righteousness made him a terrifying mirror to any hero. The living embodiment of Yeat's "the worst are full of passionate intensity."
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Lansing, MI
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Hannibal Lecter, especially if met while he's on the run and operating under an alias. Judge Holden from Blood Meridian. Possibly the most disturbed thing you'll ever encounter. The Yellow King from True Detective. Was there really something otherworldly going on or was it all imagination? Agent Richard Chance from To Live and Die in LA. Well before The Shield, this was the bad cop.
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