Other Weapons with Fencing Stances

[Sindri]

What other weapons do you think could theoretically (even if historically they didn't) benefit from the parrying advantages offered by fencing stances at the cost of being penalized by encumberance and other dodge penalties?

[DanHoward]

There are plenty of weapons that can be used in a similar way. Better off getting rid of the Fencing skill entirely and just use techniques.

[Sindri]

Originally Posted by DanHoward

There are plenty of weapons that can be used in a similar way. Better off getting rid of the Fencing skill entirely and just use techniques.

That's sort of what I intend to do, although I don't think I'll use techniques. Instead I was planning on letting characters buy a weapon skill either in a "fencing" or "nonfencing" manner and use perks to do things like learn the other style.

If it's more convenient approach it from the other side. What weapons shouldn't be able to benefit from fencing parries?

[Polydamas]

Originally Posted by Sindri

If it's more convenient approach it from the other side. What weapons shouldn't be able to benefit from fencing parries?

Well, you would have to define what "fencing parry" is supposed to represent, then see what followed. One problem is that expertise in weapons other than blades and long staff weapons is rare, so its hard to say all that one can do with them. Combat sport fighting with axes and maces is interesting but limited.

[Sindri]

Originally Posted by Polydamas

Well, you would have to define what "fencing parry" is supposed to represent, then see what followed. One problem is that expertise in weapons other than blades and long staff weapons is rare, so its hard to say all that one can do with them. Combat sport fighting with axes and maces is interesting but limited.

Martial Arts does a lot to explain what it's supposed to represent and that's what I mean when I say fencing parry.

[Walrus]

One can use Weapon Adaptation perk to use moves for one weapons (e.g. fencing) with weapons of another group. And this is perfect example of style perk.

[Polydamas]

Originally Posted by Sindri

Martial Arts does a lot to explain what it's supposed to represent and that's what I mean when I say fencing parry.

Just keep in mind that MA gives the views of one group of authors at one time as constrained by things previously published in the Basic Set. There is a post somewhere by Toadkiller Dog explaining that he more or less decided which stickfighting styles use fencing skills by feel. Someone starting from scratch might decide that the MA criteria and benefits were good, or they might decide to make new ones.

[Polydamas]

Originally Posted by DanHoward

There are plenty of weapons that can be used in a similar way. Better off getting rid of the Fencing skill entirely and just use techniques.

Or maybe a Feature of certain Styles which gives bonuses and penalties to represent a narrow, point-forward stance (defense bonuses, increased vulnerability to Beat and attacks on the weapon and sword hand, priority in A Matter of Inches, weaker or slower cuts).