GIN Ultra-Lite

Archangel Beth · 06-01-2012, 06:06 PM

That's looking useful, yes! Thank you!

Not sure if we want to keep host's Body Hits, though -- the ability of a Kyriotate to possess someone in trouble and get them out of trouble is something that feels, to me, like a staple of the Choir. Likewise, Shedim possessing someone and turning them into the equivalent of a PCP-berserker would also be a trick that would be lost.

Another thematic consideration is that a "brick" (body-guard, thug, etc.) Kyrio/Shedite would be kind of crippled if they couldn't take the damage as well as dish it out. I'm not sure a high Corp-Force celestial should be quite so much of a glass cannon. (Or glass battleaxe, depending.)

(That said, "Host's Body Hits" would be an excellent Discord for some of these tankier body-hoppers... *evil grin*)

Hmmm.

It might be that the thematic choice would be "host's or celestial's Body Hits, whichever is more"? That could be explained as "if the celestial has a strong connection to the Corporeal themes of the Symphony, its supernatural sturdiness shines through (but a Kyriotate, of course, has to be careful not to leave a badly wounded host before healing!) -- but even a poorly-connected celestial still has its host's body as a meat shield."

Kyriotates wouldn't be abusing this much because of their dissonance conditions, but Shedim might be a nuisance. It might be worthwhile to give them a risk of dissonance -- and/or some other inconvenience -- at leaving a host to die without the Shedite's CorpForces propping it up, at a minimum. (Leave just before the bullets hit? Fine. Leave after? Maybe the departing soul drags the Shedite along for the ride for a while...)

It would also be a feature to give body-hoppers a standard value for Body Hits, rather than re-calculate based on the host each time. Or at least a standard value per Size of host, so a little chart of 1-6 could be used.

I almost wonder if they should buy a "Vessel" that is used solely for the Body Hits calculation, or if it would be too complicated/expensive...

06-01-2012, 06:06 PM	#33
Archangel Beth In Nomine Line Editor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Frozen Wastelands of NH	Re: GIN Ultra-Lite That's looking useful, yes! Thank you! Not sure if we want to keep host's Body Hits, though -- the ability of a Kyriotate to possess someone in trouble and get them out of trouble is something that feels, to me, like a staple of the Choir. Likewise, Shedim possessing someone and turning them into the equivalent of a PCP-berserker would also be a trick that would be lost. Another thematic consideration is that a "brick" (body-guard, thug, etc.) Kyrio/Shedite would be kind of crippled if they couldn't take the damage as well as dish it out. I'm not sure a high Corp-Force celestial should be quite so much of a glass cannon. (Or glass battleaxe, depending.) (That said, "Host's Body Hits" would be an excellent Discord for some of these tankier body-hoppers... evil grin) Hmmm. It might be that the thematic choice would be "host's or celestial's Body Hits, whichever is more"? That could be explained as "if the celestial has a strong connection to the Corporeal themes of the Symphony, its supernatural sturdiness shines through (but a Kyriotate, of course, has to be careful not to leave a badly wounded host before healing!) -- but even a poorly-connected celestial still has its host's body as a meat shield." Kyriotates wouldn't be abusing this much because of their dissonance conditions, but Shedim might be a nuisance. It might be worthwhile to give them a risk of dissonance -- and/or some other inconvenience -- at leaving a host to die without the Shedite's CorpForces propping it up, at a minimum. (Leave just before the bullets hit? Fine. Leave after? Maybe the departing soul drags the Shedite along for the ride for a while...) It would also be a feature to give body-hoppers a standard value for Body Hits, rather than re-calculate based on the host each time. Or at least a standard value per Size of host, so a little chart of 1-6 could be used. I almost wonder if they should buy a "Vessel" that is used solely for the Body Hits calculation, or if it would be too complicated/expensive... __________________ --Beth Shamelessly adding Superiors: Lilith, GURPS Sparrials, and her fiction page to her .sig (the latter is not precisely gaming related)