09-24-2018, 08:48 AM | #31 | |
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Tell that to all the people in the poor countries that could not afford books for learning things but now can find information on the internet. And so on. I was recently talking to a person from the Phillipines who comes from a poor family, she recently graduated from college(less than a year ago) and got a relatively well paying job. Before she could give the money to her family they did not even have electricity at home. She said that the most important thing to allow her to get accepted for and to get through studies was that she got a mobile phone with internet access about five years ago. That opened the world to her, with the internet connection she was able to find options, study, find information and so on without having to spend all the money that they did not have on the materials. Without it she would have been stuck back in her village doing some menial job like her parents. And all that with having a really bad and used mobile phone for her internet device with only a short battery life and no possibility of charging it at home. Having access to the Internet changed her world to one of great possibilities. Now her progress has allowed her to help other members of her family to try to improve too and one of her younger brothers could recently enter college too with her support. So while you seem to see only the bad sides, the Internet has also allowed a lot of good things around the world. All new technologies have good and bad sides, and while some of the things about Internet are bad, the whole thing is way on the net positive. That is not to say that we should not work to make the Internet better, We definitely should work for such both as individuals and as societies. Thus support of all forms to things like Electronic Frontier Foundation, fact checkers and more, specially by own activism is important for success in such. |
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09-24-2018, 09:08 AM | #32 | ||||
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But the democracy that has proven itself is not the "who shouts loudest" that we seem to have now, it is instead the democracy of people elected by an atleast semi informed electorate to represent them. The current "shout loudly" is a huge step down from it. Quote:
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Indeed, and newspapers got mostly most of their income from advertising too, not subscribers. Also many newspapers were founded and run to push a certain agendas, so slanted reporting is nothing new to the internet, what has changed is that it is now harder to control such things with so many more possible parties involved in pushing wrong things. Last edited by weby; 09-24-2018 at 09:40 AM. |
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09-24-2018, 09:40 AM | #33 |
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Re: Setting Ideas: Why Would a Society turn away from the Internet?
*sigh* way too many idiots. They are not directly connected, but can way too often accessed by VPN connections or similar.
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09-24-2018, 10:41 AM | #34 | |
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"A managed democracy is a wonderful thing, Manuel, for the managers; and its greatest strength is a free press, where 'free' is defined as 'responsible' and the managers decide what is responsible." (Professor Bernardo de la Paz, in Robert Heinlein's The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress)
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09-24-2018, 12:07 PM | #35 | |
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09-24-2018, 02:34 PM | #36 | |
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The freedom for more people to publish their views is a good thing mostly, but he internet in itself does not guarantee such as can be seen with the extremely wide Chinese censorship. |
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09-24-2018, 03:04 PM | #37 |
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Re: Setting Ideas: Why Would a Society turn away from the Internet?
A partial rejection of the internet could result from lots of paywalls, border keeping, and so forth. Instead of 1 world wide internet, you get lots of small networks, proprietary data, and so forth. This probably isn't the result of consciously getting rid of the internet, but of a number of bad faith breakdowns between various entities.
This is probably more likely as an alternate history (possibly of humans, possibly not) than a future history.
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09-24-2018, 04:01 PM | #38 |
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Re: Setting Ideas: Why Would a Society turn away from the Internet?
If a malcontent person got a hold of the "NSA backdoor" (or whichever three letter agency you like) to some of the backbone infrastructure of the internet and suddenly took it over with catastrophic effects, it'd be easy to understand slow adoption of the internet replacement.
Imagine that the "internet 2" adopts many of the security proposals that have been circulating for decades and so is a bit less convenient but much "stronger" in that many kinds of attacks are more difficult or virtually impossible. What isn't likely to change is the presence of software and hardware bugs, and the entire catastrophic takeover might this time merely be a catastrophic shutdown. After the second incident, all access to the national network requires using the smart-card embedded in your citizen ID, and everything you do is automatically recorded and run through massive-data analytics to find anomalies and thought crime. People still use their networked phones, but a huge portion of the internet sees a continual decline into eventual oblivion. |
09-24-2018, 05:07 PM | #39 |
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A reminder to keep this on topic and not to stray into current politics which is, as should be well known by now, not allowed on these boards. Thank you. </Moderator>
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It also depends upon what you define as 'wrong things'. Are we talking about not pushing the party line? Or are we talking about failing to properly fact check their sources? |
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