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View Poll Results: Who goes first? | |||
RAW say Halberd | 11 | 57.89% | |
RAW say Horse Bow | 3 | 15.79% | |
RAW say Halberd, but I rule Horse Bow | 5 | 26.32% | |
RAW say Horse Bow, but I rule Halberd | 0 | 0% | |
Voters: 19. You may not vote on this poll |
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06-15-2019, 10:19 AM | #1 |
Join Date: Mar 2018
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YOU'RE the GM: the last chance archer
OK, let's try another one -- to see how people play.
Ideally, maybe we can avoid commenting on our individual approaches until the poll is over and "the data collected"? Halberd (ST13 DX11) vs Horse Bow (ST10 DX14) in an empty melee arena. First turn, Halbred runs at full speed, is shot for 3 damage. Second turn, Halberd charge attacks. Who gets first attack? Halberd claims he goes first, because charging pole weapons always get first attack due to their length. Horse Bow says a bow can act at even greater distance, and as his DX is higher, he should go first. What do you decide? |
06-17-2019, 02:29 PM | #2 |
Join Date: May 2019
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Re: YOU'RE the GM: the last chance archer
I would say that's a fair interpretation of the rules, specifically because the maneuver is called "one last shot" which implies that it is fired before the distance is closed. The archer is also in a very hairy situation now, and I don't see it being very unfair that he be given a chance to avoid instantaneous annihilation by halberd charge.
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06-19-2019, 02:00 AM | #3 |
Join Date: May 2019
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Re: YOU'RE the GM: the last chance archer
Yup. Option (l) p103, the archer gets to go first with ONE-LAST-SHOT which I interpret as happening in movement phase, and as per p115 they drop the bow and that's them done for the turn.
Surprised so many people think Halberd is RAW... |
06-19-2019, 02:34 AM | #4 |
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: London Uk, but originally from Scotland
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Re: YOU'RE the GM: the last chance archer
Absolutely, it makes no sense to me that in such a situation the archer will be struck at by the halberdier and then launch his final arrow. The only way I can visualise this is if the archer fires first, before a Melee attack is made.
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06-19-2019, 06:07 AM | #5 |
Join Date: Nov 2017
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Re: YOU'RE the GM: the last chance archer
See I completely agree with you, but when I asked a question about when the One Last Shot happens in combat order (believing as you that it occurs before combat) I was told it still happens on someone's Dx, which seems to defeat the purpose. I was told it 'only allowed you to fire, regardless of what happens to you' which seems stupid to me.
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06-19-2019, 06:38 AM | #6 | |
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Chicagoland Area, Illinois
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Re: YOU'RE the GM: the last chance archer
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If they do the same thing and engage you, why should you be able to fire faster? |
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06-19-2019, 08:37 AM | #7 | |
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: London Uk, but originally from Scotland
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Re: YOU'RE the GM: the last chance archer
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Melee (p16) "...a figure with a missile weapon ready can get off one shot if suddenly engaged Melee (p7) one last shot Missile attack....you can almost always release an arrow at a charging enemy. Since you can't fire a missile weapon when actually engaged, it's reasonable to assume that the shot goes off before the engagement occurs. But I take your point that this means the "one last shot" would then go out of DX order. |
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