11-22-2016, 08:24 PM | #1 |
Join Date: Jan 2015
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Wings on Preexisting Limbs?
When taking the Wings advantage, if these wings would be located on preexisting limbs, a la classic harpies or classic wyverns, would this be discounted at all? As far as I can tell, this is assumed that the wings are extra appendages; while in flight, this would restrict the use of one's arms/forelegs, so it seems as though it would constitute a discount on the wings. Is this the case?
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11-22-2016, 08:36 PM | #2 | |
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Re: Wings on Preexisting Limbs?
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11-22-2016, 09:00 PM | #3 |
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Re: Wings on Preexisting Limbs?
If the race has human level manipulators that they can not use during flying, that sounds like Temporary Disadvantage (No Fine Manipulators) on Flight, at -30%.
In a game I run, there is a intelligent humanoid bird race with wings on their arms (or, dexterous hand on their winds). They have to use their legs when wielding weapons and such while flying, at -4. I give a -10% discount on their Flight. I also allow them to buy a 5 point advantage to negate the -4 penalty, to represent training to use their legs during aerial combat. Edit: An image of the race. Last edited by finn; 11-22-2016 at 09:08 PM. Reason: Added image of race. |
11-22-2016, 09:22 PM | #4 |
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Re: Wings on Preexisting Limbs?
Except harpies and wyverns don't have fine manipulators on their arms whether they are flying or not. Instead they have grasping feet.
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11-22-2016, 09:36 PM | #5 |
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Southeast NC
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Re: Wings on Preexisting Limbs?
A harpy-like creature has two arms, two legs, and two wings. Their arms and legs just happen to be the same limbs. Give them Flight (Winged) [30] and Foot Manipulators [-6].
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11-23-2016, 09:34 AM | #6 | |
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Canada
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Re: Wings on Preexisting Limbs?
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cm97878 specifically asks about restricting the use of arm/wings while in flight, not arm/legs while standing on them. One build for that is the Temporary Disadvantage No Fine Manipulators as mentioned elsethread - you can't use your hands at all when flying. If you have hands on your wings that you can use to hold small one-handed things while flying, and crudely perform one-handed tasks while flying but it's really distracting and hard to do, Pyramid 3/90 has this build: Flight (Nuisance Effect, Cannot carry out two-handed tasks, -10%; Temporary Disadvantage, Bad Grip 2, -10%; Winged, -25%) [22] You're at -4 to perform 1 handed tasks, and can't perform 2 handed tasks at all.
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