Steal Essence range limit

Trekkin · 11-03-2012, 02:47 PM

Do Impudites need to touch their targets to use Steal Essence? Reading through Core section on resonances would suggest they could use it through a live video feed or something, but I can't think of a piece of IN fiction where they haven't physically touched the person they're draining. Is there some RAW somewhere that specifies one way or the other?

JCD · 11-03-2012, 08:57 PM

The fiction doesn't follow the rules.

According to the rules, he could be across a stadium watching a co-Ed through binoculars and have a CHANCE to charm and steal Essence. Practically...GM discretion. Because the odds are so low most Impudites play the odds and touch. Plus they LIKE to touch...

Rocket Man · 11-04-2012, 09:13 AM

Since stage one is Charming, though, that would seem to require that the target notice the Impudite -- it's not enough to see them through binoculars, they have to see you back. ("An Impudite can use his resonance again to rob his charmed victims of Essence, if they have any." Pg. 153 of Core, emphasis mine.)

Of course, that doesn't preclude the classic "love at first sight when eyes meet across a crowded room," or crowded stadium as the case may be.

Whitelaughter · 11-05-2012, 06:29 AM

No limit - if you are prepared to take the penalties, your Taker can charm/drain a target over live media, including the phone, security cameras or talkback radio.
A smart move for Tethers of The Media when under attack is to broadcat live into Hell the attack, so that every empty Impudite in front of a screen can attempt to charm/drain the invaders. Sure only one in 100 will succeed, but if thouands are attempting it....

tHEhERETIC · 11-06-2012, 05:18 AM

So was I correct that the three Impudites could not drain the Malakite, despite being more powerful than he, because there was no way they'd be able to charm him?

Rocket Man · 11-06-2012, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by tHEhERETIC

So was I correct that the three Impudites could not drain the Malakite, despite being more powerful than he, because there was no way they'd be able to charm him?

Given the latter, the former is true, yes. An Impudite can only take Essence from a charmed victim.

JCD · 11-09-2012, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by tHEhERETIC

So was I correct that the three Impudites could not drain the Malakite, despite being more powerful than he, because there was no way they'd be able to charm him?

Why wouldn't the Impudites be able to Charm him? Angels are just as suceptible, albeit with stronger Wills and more Forces. It even mentions it in canon.

11-03-2012, 02:47 PM	#1
Trekkin Join Date: Oct 2012	Steal Essence range limit Do Impudites need to touch their targets to use Steal Essence? Reading through Core section on resonances would suggest they could use it through a live video feed or something, but I can't think of a piece of IN fiction where they haven't physically touched the person they're draining. Is there some RAW somewhere that specifies one way or the other?

11-03-2012, 08:57 PM	#2
JCD Join Date: May 2008 Location: Birthplace of the Worst Pizza on the Planet	Re: Steal Essence range limit The fiction doesn't follow the rules. According to the rules, he could be across a stadium watching a co-Ed through binoculars and have a CHANCE to charm and steal Essence. Practically...GM discretion. Because the odds are so low most Impudites play the odds and touch. Plus they LIKE to touch... __________________ Curtis Says: Remember to take your Shots. And use a tight grouping.

11-04-2012, 09:13 AM	#3
Rocket Man Petitioner: Word of IN Filk Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Longmont, CO	Re: Steal Essence range limit Since stage one is Charming, though, that would seem to require that the target notice the Impudite -- it's not enough to see them through binoculars, they have to see you back. ("An Impudite can use his resonance again to rob his charmed victims of Essence, if they have any." Pg. 153 of Core, emphasis mine.) Of course, that doesn't preclude the classic "love at first sight when eyes meet across a crowded room," or crowded stadium as the case may be. __________________ “It's not railroading if you offer the PCs tickets and they stampede to the box office, waving their money. Metaphorically speaking” --Elizabeth McCoy, In Nomine Line Editor Author: "What Doesn't Kill Me Makes Me Stronger"

11-05-2012, 06:29 AM	#4
Whitelaughter Join Date: Jun 2011	Re: Steal Essence range limit No limit - if you are prepared to take the penalties, your Taker can charm/drain a target over live media, including the phone, security cameras or talkback radio. A smart move for Tethers of The Media when under attack is to broadcat live into Hell the attack, so that every empty Impudite in front of a screen can attempt to charm/drain the invaders. Sure only one in 100 will succeed, but if thouands are attempting it....

11-06-2012, 05:18 AM	#5
tHEhERETIC MIB Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Life imitates art--I'm in Pohang	Re: Steal Essence range limit So was I correct that the three Impudites could not drain the Malakite, despite being more powerful than he, because there was no way they'd be able to charm him? __________________ Criminy...these two have enough issues, they can sell subscriptions! (ladyarcana55, in a PM)