Steve Jackson Games - Site Navigation
Home General Info Follow Us Search Illuminator Store Forums What's New Other Games Ogre GURPS Munchkin Our Games: Home

Go Back   Steve Jackson Games Forums > Roleplaying > GURPS

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-26-2016, 04:04 AM   #1
lord buss
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Default affects insubstantial follow-up

if i have attack that affects insubstantial, that is follow up to attack that not affects insubstantial, can i use this attack on a spirit without doing any damage, to activate the follow-up attack?
__________________
English (broken/broken) [2]
Compulsive behavior: writing gurps character sheets (6) [-4]
DOES use capital letters and apostrophes! [1]
Mild phobia: complex gurps rules [-1]
lord buss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2016, 04:43 AM   #2
lord buss
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Default Re: affects insubstantial follow-up

there is the flaming blade in dungeon fantasy 40 artifacts. its flame affects insubstantial creatures, even if the blade itself not. the question is how to do it mechanically.
__________________
English (broken/broken) [2]
Compulsive behavior: writing gurps character sheets (6) [-4]
DOES use capital letters and apostrophes! [1]
Mild phobia: complex gurps rules [-1]
lord buss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2016, 04:47 AM   #3
vicky_molokh
GURPS FAQ Keeper
 
vicky_molokh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Kyïv, Ukraine
Default Re: affects insubstantial follow-up

Quote:
Originally Posted by lord buss View Post
there is the flaming blade in dungeon fantasy 40 artifacts. its flame affects insubstantial creatures, even if the blade itself not. the question is how to do it mechanically.
Just apply the follow-up damage. I don't think I understand the question/problem.
__________________
Vicky 'Molokh', GURPS FAQ and uFAQ Keeper
vicky_molokh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2016, 05:40 AM   #4
Johnny Angel
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Pennsylvania
Default Re: affects insubstantial follow-up

I think the question might be whether or not the follow up also needs "affects insubstantial."
Johnny Angel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2016, 05:44 AM   #5
vicky_molokh
GURPS FAQ Keeper
 
vicky_molokh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Kyïv, Ukraine
Default Re: affects insubstantial follow-up

Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Angel View Post
I think the question might be whether or not the follow up also needs "affects insubstantial."
"its flame affects insubstantial creatures, even if the blade itself not", which pretty explicitly says that the follow-up does but the blade doesn't.
__________________
Vicky 'Molokh', GURPS FAQ and uFAQ Keeper
vicky_molokh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2016, 05:47 AM   #6
lord buss
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Default Re: affects insubstantial follow-up

Quote:
Originally Posted by vicky_molokh View Post
I don't think I understand the question/problem.
the flaming blade is example, that shows that this effect is possible. the question is, how to build it as innate attack.
__________________
English (broken/broken) [2]
Compulsive behavior: writing gurps character sheets (6) [-4]
DOES use capital letters and apostrophes! [1]
Mild phobia: complex gurps rules [-1]
lord buss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2016, 06:15 AM   #7
vicky_molokh
GURPS FAQ Keeper
 
vicky_molokh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Kyïv, Ukraine
Default Re: affects insubstantial follow-up

Quote:
Originally Posted by lord buss View Post
the flaming blade is example, that shows that this effect is possible. the question is, how to build it as innate attack.
Add Affects Insubstantial to only the flame (since it affects ghosts), but not to the sword (since it doesn't).
__________________
Vicky 'Molokh', GURPS FAQ and uFAQ Keeper
vicky_molokh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2016, 10:23 AM   #8
Johnny Angel
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Pennsylvania
Default Re: affects insubstantial follow-up

Quote:
Originally Posted by vicky_molokh View Post
"its flame affects insubstantial creatures, even if the blade itself not", which pretty explicitly says that the follow-up does but the blade doesn't.

So, for both parts of the attack to affect insubstantial, they would both need that modifier?

I can see how it might be a little confusing. Follow-Up seems to imply that the carrier attack needs to hit to trigger the follow-up.

Or is there a way to have a follow-up which does not require the carrier attack to hit?

Using Link to combine an attack which does not affect insubstantial with an attack which does affect insubstantial would work.
Johnny Angel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2016, 10:42 AM   #9
David Johnston2
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Default Re: affects insubstantial follow-up

Quote:
Originally Posted by lord buss View Post
if i have attack that affects insubstantial, that is follow up to attack that not affects insubstantial, can i use this attack on a spirit without doing any damage, to activate the follow-up attack?
That's not a followup attack. It's a linked attack.
David Johnston2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2016, 11:03 AM   #10
Edges
 
Edges's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: GMT-5
Default Re: affects insubstantial follow-up

Follow-Up only affects the target if the carrier attack "hits." But neither Insubstantial nor Affects Insubstantial say anything about hitting. A reasonable interpretation is that you can hit things that are insubstantial normally and if either the follow-up or the carrier has Affects Insubstantial, then that part has an effect.
Edges is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
affects insubstantial, innate attack, modifier

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Fnords are Off
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:32 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.