08-22-2006, 10:29 AM | #41 |
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Ahhh sprint intervals, Conditioning drills and the like are NOT modeled well by Gurps combat rounds. Even a desk jockey can give you 30 seconds on pads in an interval drill.
i used sparring because it is an easy place to see some of the in shape people get worn out until their relaxation/skill set lines back up with their physical condition. And yes moreso in BJJ than Thai I have seen some people push to collapse, vomit more common but have seen a couple fall out in 8 years. And for fitness being a factor, I dont need a reminder after the 1 year Hiatus I have enjoyed, my whole body aches since starting back training every day this past Saturday. |
08-22-2006, 10:34 AM | #42 | |
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08-22-2006, 10:40 AM | #43 | |
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You're right about the desk jockey/out of shape guy being able to give you maybe one interval. But a second and a third? Maybe not so much. Again, this is probably best modeled by giving the in shape guy extra FP than anything else. |
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Also, when your FP start dropping, I think you should get penalties to your skill rolls. Is this in the extra effort rules? I don't know the rules that well, but I think it should be. Quote:
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08-22-2006, 11:17 AM | #45 | |
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08-22-2006, 11:38 AM | #46 | |
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08-22-2006, 01:29 PM | #47 | |
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08-22-2006, 01:47 PM | #48 | |
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Meaning a training exercise using extra effort cant use gurps 1 second combat rounds. You brought that up as an example of the limitations of very fit vs extra effort in combat. In a training exercise I would give a FP cost based on the length of the drill and a Very fit person would cut the cost in half. So actually for an interval drill Very fit would model very well in terms of cutting the cost of doing the drill (say 4fp) in half. And yeah the desk jockey is going to give me a second and third drill, it just wont look anything like the first, lol. |
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