02-20-2021, 11:54 AM | #21 |
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Re: stress for grip/torso/saddles during couched lancing
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02-20-2021, 12:49 PM | #22 | |
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Re: stress for grip/torso/saddles during couched lancing
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02-20-2021, 11:49 PM | #23 |
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Re: stress for grip/torso/saddles during couched lancing
No, the context doesn't help tell us what kind of armour.
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02-21-2021, 12:12 PM | #24 |
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Re: stress for grip/torso/saddles during couched lancing
Something that isn't emphasized enough in accounts of jousting/mounted spear use is the recovery after the strike. You have to hang onto the lance while somehow unsticking it from whatever you've just skewered, then bring it back into line and ready it again.
That bit of the job is entirely based on the rider's ST and skill. Gadgets like pennants or lugs were sometimes added to keep the weapon from penetrating too deeply or overpenetrating. (After all, driving a sharp stick 6" into the human body is plenty deep enough to puncture any vital organ. No need to go any deeper.) While a lancer could skewer multiple foes, they probably didn't want to if they wished to retain their weapon. After a trick like that the rider probably left the infantry-kabob behind and went for a secondary weapon like a melee weapon or bow (or pistols for lancers of later eras). |
02-21-2021, 12:51 PM | #25 |
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Re: stress for grip/torso/saddles during couched lancing
What types of armour we know they were in use among the Roman troops in the eastern portion of the Roman Empire during the campaign of Julianus against Shapur II (AD 363)?
Predominantly, mail for body armour and plate for helmets. Then scale. Then other things. So, in this case "double armour" is likely to be "mail + mail" or "mail + something else". Note that the Ammianus Marcellinus description of a lance hit on charge being capable to pass through the foe's human body and then hit another foe which is positioned behind the first does not sound at all being a literary hyperbole like the "a mounted Frank is irresistible, able to bore his way through the walls of Babylon" written than Anna Comnena eight centuries afterwards. So it is plausible that, on occasion, strong cavalry charges with heavy lances were capable to pierce two layers of armour, then injurying or killing the wearer. Last edited by Rasna; 02-21-2021 at 02:45 PM. |
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