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Old 08-05-2019, 09:45 AM   #641
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Hierarchical societies always seem to have issues with popular entertainment. Japan constantly put the harshest restrictions on the Kubuki theatre ( the aristocratic Noh drama fared far better). The actors, even when acknowledged as great artists, were treated as whores and often had to earn most of their livings as such. Christian Rome outlawed theatre, but kept gladitorial games. Islam didn't even allow the formation of live theatre traditions outside of Iran and often outlawed music. If a performer became too popular for the comfort of the scholar class in China, they were often exiled to poor districts. Too popular generally meant little more than name recognition.

Even Elizabethan England, known for its theatre, treated actors as beggars under law. And Scotland, which in the same period had its own brilliant theatre, often praised by the English who saw it as the equal of their own, got rid of all the manuscripts and printed little if any of its literature for religious reasons.

So the question would be, how does the 3I suppress popular art and media?
Refusing to let it be carried on interstellar routes? Rather than suppress it they can quarantine it, assuming they care to.
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Old 08-05-2019, 10:08 AM   #642
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You'd think that but remember the song "Dancing in the Streets" was banned for years in England because the Establishment thought it would cause riots.
??? Do you have a source for this?

I can not find it in the web.

And either way, a ban in a single ban in one country is not the same as a world-wide ban.
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Old 08-05-2019, 10:20 AM   #643
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??? Do you have a source for this?

I can not find it in the web.

And either way, a ban in a single ban in one country is not the same as a world-wide ban.
In any case local bans are certainly allowed, even some highly eccentric ones.

Media that necessarily has to do with laws already in existence is obviously banned such as any art form involving psionics.
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Old 08-07-2019, 08:06 AM   #644
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??? Do you have a source for this?
Here's a story from The New Yorker largely talking about a time of rioting in 1960s Detroit that mentions the rumor, as well as putting some context around the notion of the song as a radical anthem.

Just last year, Fort Smith, Arkansas, repealed their 1953 ban on public dancing on Sundays, but that applied irrespective of the music you might be playing. I don't know if Kevin Bacon had any comment on the news.

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a ban in a single ban in one country is not the same as a world-wide ban.
It is when the planet is one country -- as is the case for most worlds in the Imperium (all the non-balkanized ones).
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Old 08-17-2019, 01:04 AM   #645
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You'd think that but remember the song "Dancing in the Streets" was banned for years in England because the Establishment thought it would cause riots.
"Dancing in the Street" and no it wasn't. Actually it was a number 1 hit there.

As for the Empire it's quite mechanically incapable of doing any large scale suppression of pop culture. There's too much local autonomy and too many virtually unregulated grubby little Free Traders who love compact cargo like computer memory loaded with cultural goods. The more dictatorial or oligarchic Individual planets can and do suppress popular culture, but that suppression ends at their atmosphere. One of the Patrons was actually a touring musical act, and not at all a high brow one.
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