09-18-2013, 03:30 PM | #51 | |
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Re: So I dropped my sword... how do I pick it up (in combat)
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09-18-2013, 04:35 PM | #52 | |
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Re: So I dropped my sword... how do I pick it up (in combat)
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BS only: pg 368 says you can step to change from a standing position to a kneeling one, and vice versa, so that would be Step and Ready, kneel and ready weapon (and you would be able to parry with it, though at a penalty for kneeling), then Step and Attack, stand and attack if target is within reach. Martial Arts: pg 104 says 2 ready actions, one to pick up weapon (confirming the above step and kneel), another to ready it for combat. I also just noticed that there's where the DX/Fast-draw roll at -3 comes from; to ready it for combat as one ready maneuver.
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09-18-2013, 05:05 PM | #53 |
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Re: So I dropped my sword... how do I pick it up (in combat)
On a tangent: What would I do if I wanted to pull a Jackie Chan and fling it point first at my enemy with my toe?
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09-18-2013, 05:32 PM | #54 |
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Re: So I dropped my sword... how do I pick it up (in combat)
This is (in grossly simplified terms) a thrown weapon attack. See MA221 for the rules on throwing a sword: DX-4, or Thrown Weapon (Sword) if the GM allows that (likely cinematic) skill. "Throwing" with the feet is an extra complication. I'd use the Using Your Legs rules (MA79): -2 DX, +2 ST. So you'll either be making the attack at DX-6 or Thrown Weapon (Sword) -2. Of course, those rules are specific to grappling, which allows use of the entire leg rather than just the foot. In this case it may be appropriate to increase the DX penalty and/or get rid of the ST bonus.
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09-19-2013, 12:13 AM | #55 | |
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A couple of things though 1). Tactical grappling has couching as "a deep crouch bringing the eyes down to armpit level or lower, Couching is two legged, half height position" rather than the slight dip you describe here. I'm guessing TG is picturing a sumo stance. Not that you can't have a range of meaning, but on the whole I this is more what I was thinking when I apply a -2 to target with ranged attack against it and a -2 to attack from it. (given the scale of what -2 to target and -2 to attack tends to mean elsewhere). 2).Maybe I'm a bit of a gibbon but my hands are not that far from knee height anyway, I can slightly dip one shoulder while standing straight and get a hand to that level and lower. And I don't need to have a knee on the floor or have my arse tucked on to my foot in order to touch the floor with one or both hands. So I think I'm definitely in that grey area between kneeling and crouching here. 3). What you describe as a crouch I.e slight bend of the legs and/or back, is quite a lot of default stances for Martial arts (direct experiences of fencing, karate and judo, inferred from lots of others) in general, the sumo one mentioned above is an especially low one for obvious reasons. I don't think they would be qualifying for crouching penalties? Don't get me wrong I take your point about system granularity, and these postures being a range of positions, but I'm not sure that actually negates my earlier point? I.e I have no problem accepting kneeling as range of things, but then that seems to restrict crouching to a range that doesn't seem to be matched by the rest of the system for crouching? anyway cheers for the answer TD Last edited by Tomsdad; 09-19-2013 at 11:14 AM. |
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09-19-2013, 06:23 AM | #56 | |
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I'm sure we settled on half-height to match the -2 in the posture table, but in reality, a crouch seems to be "a variable amount of knee bend that impairs mobility and reduces target signature."
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09-19-2013, 07:31 AM | #57 | |
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Overall I agree with the points made that Standing, crouching, kneeling sitting, crawling & lying are not distinct and absolute things here, but rather each represents a range of positions that together make up a continuous range from standing to attention down to avoiding lightning bolts in a shallow ditch. However the description of that range for crouch (and by inference standing) given by Kromm seems to be very narrow., and as you say doesn't match up with the other rules. Cheers TD Last edited by Tomsdad; 09-19-2013 at 10:49 AM. |
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09-19-2013, 09:38 AM | #58 | |
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09-19-2013, 10:07 AM | #59 |
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09-19-2013, 06:54 PM | #60 | |
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Re: So I dropped my sword... how do I pick it up (in combat)
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Conveniently, GURPS 4th ed. handwaves all that into Extra Attack. If you allow a variant of Extra Attack for an extra acrobatic maneuver while making an AoA or moving (counting the forward roll in Kromm's example as a single action), then just treat your acrobatic martial artist as having two Extra Attacks. Possibly, you could also have a house rule where you allow an increase in Step distance for basic Move or Basic Speed, or just a perk or advantage which allows an increase in Step distance, which would allow a 2-3 meter "step" in one turn without having to take the Move action. |
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