Stat rocky balboa

[Lucian]

I'm watching rocky 3

Watching him take a beating from clubber lang lol

And wondering what stats and advantages/disadvantages does this guy have.

What do you think

[Fred Brackin]

Originally Posted by Lucian

I'm watching rocky 3

Watching him take a beating from clubber lang lol

And wondering what stats and advantages/disadvantages does this guy have.

What do you think

I think boxing (the sport) and Gurps don't mix very well. Things like "punch stats" and other metrics used in the Real world indicate hundreds of effective blows and in Gurps they have to do 0 real damage at least 90% and probably 95% of the time.

If I was to really take swing at this I might multiple Gurps lethal HP into 10 to 20x boxing HP. There would turn into lethal HP when they made up groups of 10 or 20 as appropriate. You'd probably have to re-scale damage slightly to make it all fit together.

[JoelSammallahti]

Supernatural Durability, for starters...

More realistically? I think by the end of Rocky I he has ST 13, DX 12, IQ 9, HT 13; Fit, High Pain Threshold and a level or two of Hard to Subdue; Boxing-14 and Running-14. Not a lot of techniques as far as I can tell, but the Focused Fury perk seems to match those huge hooks he throws. Buying up any combination of Will, HP, FP and Basic Speed is not out of the question.

[Refplace]

Originally Posted by Fred Brackin

I think boxing (the sport) and Gurps don't mix very well. Things like "punch stats" and other metrics used in the Real world indicate hundreds of effective blows and in Gurps they have to do 0 real damage at least 90% and probably 95% of the time.

If I was to really take swing at this I might multiple Gurps lethal HP into 10 to 20x boxing HP. There would turn into lethal HP when they made up groups of 10 or 20 as appropriate. You'd probably have to re-scale damage slightly to make it all fit together.

IT:DR helps a lot here.

[Purple Haze]

There is a skill in taking a punch. Reducing the damage to negligible.

On several occasions Muhammed Ali dropped his guard and let his opponent hit him in the head, to demoralize the opponent, to show that the opponent's great effort did not matter.

Marvin Hagler did it to Sugar Ray Leonard. Leonard won the fight on points, but Hagler made it clear that Leonard could not hurt him, while he could hurt Leonard.

A lot of boxing damage should be FP not HP too. That is most of the point of body blows.

[Phantasm]

Don't forget that boxing gloves are actually designed to reduce the felt blow from a punch, not add to it. This makes modern boxing less lethal than the bare-knuckle boxing from the 19th and early 20th century that preceded it.

Rocky's style seems to be "stay on All-Out Defense (dedicated) while occasionally tossing a few Defensive Attacks (aka jabs) for the first half of the match, then when his opponent is starting to tire out follow up with Attacks and Committed Attacks (Strong)". He almost never - except at the start of Rocky III when he's clearly been coddled for the last dozen fights - drops his defense entirely, so no All-Out Attacks.

This is most apparent in Rocky IV, where his opponent (Dolph Lundgren) was being trained to "hit fast, hit hard, and end the fight quickly". Even in his second fight against Mr. T in III he seems to focus on wearing down his opponent before wailing away with his harder attacks. I believe this is how he fought in Rocky II as well.

[Fred Brackin]

Originally Posted by Refplace

IT:DR helps a lot here.

What UB do you charge for buying this Exotic Advantage?

You'll also have to be quite specific in applying Limitations to it to keep boxers from being immune to being hit by cars.

I'd rather have a more general rules fix instead of making some people special.

[NineDaysDead]

DR (Limited, Crushing, -40%; Tough Skin, -40%) 2 [2]

And maybe: Special Exercises (DR 2, Crushing, -40%; Tough Skin, -40%) [1]

[Christopher R. Rice]

Originally Posted by Fred Brackin

I think boxing (the sport) and Gurps don't mix very well. Things like "punch stats" and other metrics used in the Real world indicate hundreds of effective blows and in Gurps they have to do 0 real damage at least 90% and probably 95% of the time.

If I was to really take swing at this I might multiple Gurps lethal HP into 10 to 20x boxing HP. There would turn into lethal HP when they made up groups of 10 or 20 as appropriate. You'd probably have to re-scale damage slightly to make it all fit together.

Why not just say that boxing gloves reduce damage by -2 or -1/die (or even -4 and -2/die)?

[NineDaysDead]

Originally Posted by Ghostdancer

Why not just say that boxing gloves reduce damage by -2 or -1/die (or even -4 and -2/die)?

Martial Arts page 233:

Originally Posted by Boxing Gloves

Regular boxing gloves are mitten-like, completely enclosing the fingers and thumb. They give DR 2 vs. crushing (DR 1 vs. other damage) and -2 to punching damage. The wearer has Bad Grip 3 (p. B123) for all purposes. $40, 1 lb. (pair).